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THE ORVILLE S2, E6: "A HAPPY REFRAIN"

Wonderful and charming episode. Strong A from me regarding the story and all the characters... err... all but one. As others have stated, I still haven’t warmed up to Talla or whatever her name is (Alara’s replacement)... I think she may have worked better if she weren’t Xeleyan.
 
Well, this episode was just lovely. It was basically Orville's variation on TNG's "In Theory," which was one of their best episodes. Orville has its own twisted way of doing things, however, so this was much more than an imitation and went in some very different directions-- including the surprising ending where Claire and Isaac decide to continue their relationship past one episode.

There were lots of great conversations about Claire's motivations for wanting to get involved with Isaac, covering her awareness that he is not going to develop emotions and that she is projecting her feelings upon him. She is fine with him having a completely different motivation for being in the relationship, because even partners in a human relationship have completely different motivations. But possibly the most telling statement, and the one that may foreshadow the ultimate end of the relationship, came when Isaac woke up Claire in the middle of the night and she said she was "probably just lonely." Isaac's side of the equation was seemingly not completely without sentiment, however-- he had no other reason to bring her the banana than concern over her well being, he had already extensively modified his own programming in response to their interactions, and he was able to gain enough insight to give her a rainstorm (which was such a beautiful scene).

But, of course, the most amazing moment was when he used the simulator to turn himself into a human being-- who coincidentally looks just like the actor who plays him on TV. This is why Isaac was wise to listen only to John's advice and not Gordon's-- or maybe Bortus's mustache had something to do with that. In any case, that was a stunning sequence, from Isaac's transformation to Claire's summoning her own bedroom to the simulator room. Very touching and romantic. And presumably we'll get to see the inner actor on a regular basis going forward. It all does raise some interesting questions about their holographic technology, though, if it is able to change a being's appearance to the extent of giving a faceless robot squishy human lips and presumably other, hopefully not so squishy, human parts.

The funniest moment had to be Yaphet stealing Isaac's idea and giving himself a human body, also with the coincidental appearance of the actor who plays him-- which, in this case, may not have been the wisest idea. :rommie:

It will be interesting to see how this develops over the course of the rest of the season and if it will all come to some kind of resolution, or if it is simply the new normal-- a perpetual relationship that we will periodically revisit like Bortus and Klyden. Since we know that Isaac can modify his own programming, I wonder if he can literally give himself emotions-- the equivalent of Data's chip-- and how that would manifest itself, and how it would affect a relationship when one party can modify their feelings through trial and error, but the other can't.

And, of course, the episode was chock full of other notable elements, as usual. Bortus's mustache, John and Gordon racing to the bridge like schoolkids to squeal, the bowling alley, Dann's ignored offer to loan Isaac a shirt, and the kid's recital. The part I really loved was the guest symphony orchestra, which was reminiscent of the traveling Shakespeare troupe in TOS and the frequent classical music concerts in TNG.

On a side note, I noticed how they cleverly sidestepped the question of where Isaac stands on the question of his homeworld joining the Planetary Union. I have this strange feeling that his planet is not contemplating joining the Union but rather whether or not to let it continue to exist-- and that their ultimate judgment will not be favorable.
 
I hate making comparison between TNG and The Orville, but please, remember me: at the end of In Theory, did anyone point out to do Data what INCREDIBLE JERK HE WAS?!?!

Jenna was told that Data cannot feel or care.

She didn't believe him because she is stupid.

By the time that she figured out that she was stupid, and wrong, Data was still exactly the same person that he had always been.
 
Jenna was told that Data cannot feel or care.

She didn't believe him because she is stupid.

By the time that she figured out that she was stupid, and wrong, Data was still exactly the same person that he had always been.
Data is still a sentient being, responsabile for his choices, and his choices made another human being suffer. And after all those years between humans, I suppose that he knew how devastating heartbreaks can be. And really, he took inspiration from 50's romcoms? Did he decide to ignore all the subsequent literature which explain about how wrong they were?!?! "Honey? I'm home".

While he were at it, why didn't he go straight to Othello?
 
Data is still a sentient being, responsabile for his choices, and his choices made another human being suffer. And after all those years between humans, I suppose that he knew how devastating heartbreaks can be. And really, he took inspiration from 50's romcoms? Did he decide to ignore all the subsequent literature which explain about how wrong they were?!?! "Honey? I'm home".

While he were at it, why didn't he go straight to Othello?

Data has no empathy.

I guess he uses ethics to replace empathy?
 
Data has no empathy.

I guess he uses ethics to replace empathy?
Well, if you consider ethics, he should not have started the relationship, because it was clear that he could not reciprocate his feelings and the only one who had something to lose was her.

So, from an utilitarian point of view (happiness maximization), he WAS A JERK!
 
To me this wasn't just a copy of "In Theory." To me this episode was actually that old Gary Shandling movie "What Planet Are You From." A alien who has romance with a human woman I think because they were studying romance or something and then they fall in love. Well that or any romantic comedy ever!

Jason
 
I remember that movie. It was an.... Interesting one. I can kind of see the similarities you mention.
 
Well, if you consider ethics, he should not have started the relationship, because it was clear that he could not reciprocate his feelings and the only one who had something to lose was her.

So, from an utilitarian point of view (happiness maximization), he WAS A JERK!

Jerks get married all the time.
 
That was a surprisingly good episode!

They (Seth and Co) probably didn't even realize how good it was going to be until they started making it. Consider the "b-plot". It was virtually nonexistent. They spent pretty much the entire episode on Claire and Isaac. There was no need for anything else to keep the viewer engaged, and no desire to muddle up their story with any other goings on. When your a-story is going that strong, you know you nailed it.

Loved the idea of the orchestra with the shuttlebay doors open behind them. Talk about a wise use of the space you have available to you. And so many of the comedy moments this week really clicked, more so than usual for this show even. (Led by Isaac in his underwear of course!)

Great stuff.
 
Do we know who's in the Isaac suit on set? Sometimes in these situations it's the same person who does the voice and sometimes it's someone else. For instance the performer or one of the performers for The Muppet characters usually also does the voice.The only person in the main credits is Mark Jackson, but a lot of these kinds of roles are only credited to the voice actor.
 
Do we know who's in the Isaac suit on set?
Mark Jackson himself.
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Yes, Jackson is the guy in the suit. As it became clear what Isaac was doing, I was hoping that his human avatar would turn out to be Jackson. I was thrilled that it was.

"In Theory" is not a very good show. Never was. It was pointless and dull. Spiner gave a great performance; he never put a foot wrong in all the years he portrayed that character.

"Happy Refrain" is a great show.

The rest is bookkeeping.
 
Jenna and Data is the sort of crazy that results in Khan and Marla McGivers.

A crewman that allows their sad lonely emotions to talk them into feeling that a criminally bad prospect is their soul mate.

The sexist trope that we're avoiding here is where a "deluded" woman believes that she can change a man who does not want to change or is incapable of change.

It's SOP to bang the relatives of someone who jilts you.

At least in tropey sexist fiction?

Lore is a much better match for Jenna than Data, because he can feel her love, and love her back and enjoy her love... While he talks her into planting a bomb in engineering.

Foolish untrustworthy Jenna would have been kicked off the Enterprise as soon as Data was finished with her, because keeping the Android "happy" moments away from killing them all was an imperative.

Keiko had a speech in In Theory about socks where she explains that no matter how hard she tried, she could not change Miles. So that's a parallel to the A-plot. yeah?
 
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Consider the "b-plot". It was virtually nonexistent. They spent pretty much the entire episode on Claire and Isaac. There was no need for anything else to keep the viewer engaged, and no desire to muddle up their story with any other goings on. When your a-story is going that strong, you know you nailed it.
After this episode I read the Memory-Alpha page about In Theory and, well, Ron Moore wasn't happy about the b-plot too:
Ron Moore disliked having the space anomaly B-story in the episode, describing it as being representative of the "hamstringing' structure that Star Trek: The Next Generation had. Moore commented: "Joe Menosky and I wrote 'In Theory', the Data romance, and we had to come up with some stupid subspace anomaly that the Enterprise had to be battling at the same time. It was annoying storytelling, but that was built in to the structure of the show. While you were downstairs with Data, you always kind of wondered what the ship was doing. On Deep Space Nine you don't have that looming over your head all the time, so it expands the kinds of stories you can do". (Captains' Logs Supplemental - The Unauthorized Guide to the New Trek Voyages, pp 78-79)
 
On a side note, I noticed how they cleverly sidestepped the question of where Isaac stands on the question of his homeworld joining the Planetary Union. I have this strange feeling that his planet is not contemplating joining the Union but rather whether or not to let it continue to exist-- and that their ultimate judgment will not be favorable.
Maybe he's the Dann of his race and they sent him on this mission even though they have no interest in joining the union just to keep him busy and get rid of him.
 
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