Yeah, they had to be out to lunch when they thought up the stillsuits for the movie. Who really thought it was a good idea to have actors wearing black rubber outfits in the desert?
Now this is unexpected. Oscar Isaac as Leto.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/oscar-isaac-could-rule-arrakis-in-denis-villeneuves-dun-1832163655/amp
Damn, the cast for this just keeps getting better and better.Apparently they are moving away from an unknown middle eastern actress/model for Chani. Zendaya (someone called it super early in the thread) is negotiating for it.
https://comicbook.com/movies/amp/2019/01/30/dune-zendaya-chani/
Someone who didn't think they would be in the desert.Yeah, they had to be out to lunch when they thought up the stillsuits for the movie. Who really thought it was a good idea to have actors wearing black rubber outfits in the desert?
Who reads it?One of my friends watched the David Lynch film and then went on to read Dune Messiah. Can't even imagine how confused he was.
Just out of interest, how many of you have listened to the Dune audiobook? It's fantastic.
The Audible version has a full cast but Simon Vance is the main reader.Who reads it?
Nice. Might have to look in to that.The Audible version has a full cast but Simon Vance is the main reader.
Might be worth signing up for a free trial just so you can listen to it. Audible is an Amazon company so it should have a presence in the US and other countries.Nice. Might have to look in to that.
Nice. Might have to look in to that.
I don't remember much about the character (I know, I know, I really need to reread the book already) but I love Javier Bardem, so I'm thrilled he's involved with the film in any capacity.I don't like this choice for Stilgar. Javier is a fine actor but I really wish they'd gone with middle eastern/north african/pakistanian/Indian western unknowns for the Fremen. Make him Thufir or something.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/dunes-cast-just-keeps-getting-better-looks-to-add-javi-1832272265/amp
I'm guessing they didn't want to pick anyone Middle Eastern or North African for Stilgar, even though that seems more fitting. Wonder what they're doing about words like 'Jihad' and other Islamic or Middle Eastern overtones.
They're really going to have a hard time scrubbing everything with Middle Eastern overtones. After all, a rough generalization of the plot is that it takes place in a desert region the rest of the universe relies on to get the fuel for their spaceships. There are some pretty obvious parallels which are going to be unavoidable.I'm guessing they didn't want to pick anyone Middle Eastern or North African for Stilgar, even though that seems more fitting. Wonder what they're doing about words like 'Jihad' and other Islamic or Middle Eastern overtones.
I think you missed the part where it's explicitly established as a myth that was implanted by foreigners and the main characters are consciously and quite cynically using natives' belief in it to their own advantage.The whole messiah thing is potentially problematic. Desert people following a prophet into a jihad to rid their land of foreigners who come to take their vital resource? Plus Paul fits the whole white savior thing.
I think you missed the part where it's explicitly established as a myth that was implanted by foreigners and the main characters are consciously and quite cynically using natives' belief in it to their own advantage.
If you're reading it as "white man saves the day" you're *really* missing the point.
I really don't see what's so tricky about some powerful outsiders coming in and exploiting the superstitions of the locals for their own ends being depicted as some powerful outsiders coming in and exploiting the superstitions of the locals for their own ends.No, I get the book. It's a pretty easy book to get. But Paul is still white messiah to a group of desert warriors who fight a jihad, and I'm not sure the whole 'cynically using natives' belief to their own advantage' is any less tricky in this day and age, especially since it casts the idea of a prophet to such people in a very cynical light.
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