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THE ORVILLE S2, E6: "A HAPPY REFRAIN"

This might be my favorite episode of the entire show. Totally unexpected, I did not even see the preview so I had no idea what the episode was going to be. Maybe it was less Ed, but it didn't try to be anything else, it was just a great episode with great moments.
 
Also, can we all agree that Mark Jackson is a beautiful man?
 
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Yeah, I had a sense that he was a real musician and conductor too, but forgot to look it up afterward.
 
Yeah, I had a sense that he was a real musician and conductor too, but forgot to look it up afterward.

I wonder how many in the orchestra were real players? I mean, the ones in alien makeup for example - did they get orchestra players to sit down in the makeup chair for hours for that?
 
I wonder how many in the orchestra were real players? I mean, the ones in alien makeup for example - did they get orchestra players to sit down in the makeup chair for hours for that?
Most likely none unless, they wanted to be........they make their money actually playing music. That's what extras are for. :-)
 
Well, it's finally happened. An episode of "The Oerville" I could stand to sit through and finish watching (I bailed at the Bowling Alley scene. And I really hoped I would enjoy this one as it had my two reaming favorite characters of the series in a lead story too.)

Why?

I like my Science fiction to have some occasional actual Science Fiction beyond, "...and it's IN SPACE!". This was worse than the worst of TNG when that show went down a similar route of an episode plot you could have seen on "Family Ties". Hell, at least when TNG did this story (TNG S4 - "In Theory") there was an actual Science Fiction B plot with a Dark Matter Nebula that cost a few crew here and there.

This Orville episode wasn't a homage to TNG. It was a homage to "Friends", "Seinfeld" and "The Love Boat" all rolled into one.

My god - The Orville isn't a top of the line Explorer; it's a Confederation Cruise ship with all the amenities:

- A Concert Hall for a 80 piece Orchestra and/or Piano Recital (Which it seems the entire crew compliment can come and attend at their leisure.)

- Fine Cruise Cuisine

- Bowling Night

- And what's the B plot? Gordon talks Bortus into growing a Porn 'Stache...

- And we even got a bit of "Family Guy":

Ed: "How'd the Date go?"

Issac: "There were no mechanical difficulties..."

Ed: (Under His Breath) "Well, you don't have to brag about it.

You'd think with just 13 episodes and Seth Claiming - "No, it's NOT a Comedy..." - you'd see a story editor nix this stuff before it gets to the production phase.

So, yeah, to those trying to claim "The Orville" is so like TOS...just stop. As S2 shows, it's at best a bad homage to some of the worst elements of TNG. If you like that, great, you've found a show that gives uyou what you like in a similar way that TNG did (especially in the 5-7 seasons).

At least in my area, the EL-Ray Network had an Stargate SG-1 episode rerun that I found more interesting and could switch to.
 
Well, it's finally happened. An episode of "The Oerville" I could stand to sit through and finish watching (I bailed at the Bowling Alley scene. And I really hoped I would enjoy this one as it had my two reaming favorite characters of the series in a lead story too.)

Why?

I like my Science fiction to have some occasional actual Science Fiction beyond, "...and it's IN SPACE!". This was worse than the worst of TNG when that show went down a similar route of an episode plot you could have seen on "Family Ties". Hell, at least when TNG did this story (TNG S4 - "In Theory") there was an actual Science Fiction B plot with a Dark Matter Nebula that cost a few crew here and there.

This Orville episode wasn't a homage to TNG. It was a homage to "Friends", "Seinfeld" and "The Love Boat" all rolled into one.

My god - The Orville isn't a top of the line Explorer; it's a Confederation Cruise ship with all the amenities:

- A Concert Hall for a 80 piece Orchestra and/or Piano Recital (Which it seems the entire crew compliment can come and attend at their leisure.)

- Fine Cruise Cuisine

- Bowling Night

- And what's the B plot? Gordon talks Bortus into growing a Porn 'Stache...

- And we even got a bit of "Family Guy":

Ed: "How'd the Date go?"

Issac: "There were no mechanical difficulties..."

Ed: (Under His Breath) "Well, you don't have to brag about it.

You'd think with just 13 episodes and Seth Claiming - "No, it's NOT a Comedy..." - you'd see a story editor nix this stuff before it gets to the production phase.

So, yeah, to those trying to claim "The Orville" is so like TOS...just stop. As S2 shows, it's at best a bad homage to some of the worst elements of TNG. If you like that, great, you've found a show that gives uyou what you like in a similar way that TNG did (especially in the 5-7 seasons).

At least in my area, the EL-Ray Network had an Stargate SG-1 episode rerun that I found more interesting and could switch to.

Obviously you missed the Space Portion, where they gathered data about a, maybe dwarf star, and the maybe, gas giant star which seemed to be within a few yards of one another.
It was quite fascinating.
To bad you didn't see that part.:D
 
Well, it's finally happened. An episode of "The Oerville" I could stand to sit through and finish watching (I bailed at the Bowling Alley scene. And I really hoped I would enjoy this one as it had my two reaming favorite characters of the series in a lead story too.)

Why?

I like my Science fiction to have some occasional actual Science Fiction beyond, "...and it's IN SPACE!". This was worse than the worst of TNG when that show went down a similar route of an episode plot you could have seen on "Family Ties". Hell, at least when TNG did this story (TNG S4 - "In Theory") there was an actual Science Fiction B plot with a Dark Matter Nebula that cost a few crew here and there.

This Orville episode wasn't a homage to TNG. It was a homage to "Friends", "Seinfeld" and "The Love Boat" all rolled into one.

My god - The Orville isn't a top of the line Explorer; it's a Confederation Cruise ship with all the amenities:

- A Concert Hall for a 80 piece Orchestra and/or Piano Recital (Which it seems the entire crew compliment can come and attend at their leisure.)

- Fine Cruise Cuisine

- Bowling Night

- And what's the B plot? Gordon talks Bortus into growing a Porn 'Stache...

- And we even got a bit of "Family Guy":

Ed: "How'd the Date go?"

Issac: "There were no mechanical difficulties..."

Ed: (Under His Breath) "Well, you don't have to brag about it.

You'd think with just 13 episodes and Seth Claiming - "No, it's NOT a Comedy..." - you'd see a story editor nix this stuff before it gets to the production phase.

So, yeah, to those trying to claim "The Orville" is so like TOS...just stop. As S2 shows, it's at best a bad homage to some of the worst elements of TNG. If you like that, great, you've found a show that gives uyou what you like in a similar way that TNG did (especially in the 5-7 seasons).

At least in my area, the EL-Ray Network had an Stargate SG-1 episode rerun that I found more interesting and could switch to.
It's not explicitly a comedy, it's a dramedy in the same vein as M*A*S*H. That said, it's a shame you didn't like the episode. This episode is everything I enjoy from sci-fi, where we put our humanity under a microscope and explore its finer points and flaws, seeking to better understand who we are and how we interact with the universe around us.
 
Well, it's finally happened. An episode of "The Oerville" I could stand to sit through and finish watching (I bailed at the Bowling Alley scene. And I really hoped I would enjoy this one as it had my two reaming favorite characters of the series in a lead story too.)

Why?

I like my Science fiction to have some occasional actual Science Fiction beyond, "...and it's IN SPACE!". This was worse than the worst of TNG when that show went down a similar route of an episode plot you could have seen on "Family Ties". Hell, at least when TNG did this story (TNG S4 - "In Theory") there was an actual Science Fiction B plot with a Dark Matter Nebula that cost a few crew here and there.

This Orville episode wasn't a homage to TNG. It was a homage to "Friends", "Seinfeld" and "The Love Boat" all rolled into one.

My god - The Orville isn't a top of the line Explorer; it's a Confederation Cruise ship with all the amenities:

- A Concert Hall for a 80 piece Orchestra and/or Piano Recital (Which it seems the entire crew compliment can come and attend at their leisure.)

- Fine Cruise Cuisine

- Bowling Night

- And what's the B plot? Gordon talks Bortus into growing a Porn 'Stache...

- And we even got a bit of "Family Guy":

Ed: "How'd the Date go?"

Issac: "There were no mechanical difficulties..."

Ed: (Under His Breath) "Well, you don't have to brag about it.

You'd think with just 13 episodes and Seth Claiming - "No, it's NOT a Comedy..." - you'd see a story editor nix this stuff before it gets to the production phase.

So, yeah, to those trying to claim "The Orville" is so like TOS...just stop. As S2 shows, it's at best a bad homage to some of the worst elements of TNG. If you like that, great, you've found a show that gives uyou what you like in a similar way that TNG did (especially in the 5-7 seasons).

At least in my area, the EL-Ray Network had an Stargate SG-1 episode rerun that I found more interesting and could switch to.

You sir, have no soul. ;)

Seriously though, this was a SFnal episode. While it centered on low-stakes interpersonal drama, it would have been impossible to do on a non sci-fi show, because so much of it was wrapped up in the "fish out of water" status of Isaac.

I'll take this over "anomaly of the week" any day. Largely because there's a finite number of sci-fi plots you can really do, and Trek has done most of them to death already. What makes plots interesting is the characters embedded within them. And this episode had character in spades.
 
Again, TNG like in that it must have been in what? The final 5 minutes?

But even though it's a space show I always look at science fiction as a look into the future.
I think everyone here wishes that we were out flying around on a space ship.
I'd be gone in a heartbeat even if I was going to only be a waiter in the Rec.center.

It's not all just about seeing planets collide or gas nebulas it's about technology we all love to dream about and imagine we are there.
Is life a 24/7 roller coaster?
If it is, most people would be dead in about 2 months.
I get that a show about a ship flying for 11 months to such and such "interesting something" i.e like anyone of us going too desk job in an office and back for11 months would be boring. But I think a story about the characters in a day to day sort of presentation is nice.
Also this was a fun and interesting episode.
If you want 99% "action" I think you can watch the 17 Fast and Furious movies.:techman:
 
The episode was a perfect example of why I love The Orville. The show can give us nice action sometimes, interesting scifi but also nice character moments but always with a lot of fun and charm. And the show is so uplifting. I love the light tone and the likeable characters. I kinda wish that The Orville and Discovery could swap the Star Trek name. The Orville is trek in spirit even though it does not bear the name. And Discovery is a great show, with spectacular cinematography but Iast night episode's was basically Game of Thrones in space. It would have been the same taking place in another generic universe. The contrast between Discovery and Orville could not have been greater.

This episode was a simple story but it had so much heart and some great moments. I laughed out loud when Isaac overturned the table in the restaurant. It was also a really clever use of the holodeck to have Isaac look human. The Orville has used the holodeck really well so far, much than Star Trek did. But my favorite scene was by far the last scene with the rain on the bridge. WOW. The song, the rain falling as the crew just sits there getting wet. And the tender moment between Isaac and Claire. What a great scene. It felt ripped right out of a Gene Kelly musical. Perfect!
 
I like my Science fiction to have some occasional actual Science Fiction beyond, "...and it's IN SPACE!".
And it's in the future, and it's about an artificial being going on dates in a fantasy simulator... but apart from that? Yeah, how about a little sci-fi? :rolleyes:

At its core it's about people. Stands to reason some of the stories will be people stories
 
I thought that episode was charming, except for the Raining on the bridge part. That ship should be damaged after that scene. Everything else though was great. Probably my favorite episode of the season, even though the Alara leaving episode was still really great.
I think it might have been simulated rain. Like the simulated matter in whatever they call their version of the holodeck where you can still feel it, though. I was curious, so I was paying attention to when they panned back to show the bridge during that scene and the floor wasn't getting wet or flooding, unlike their clothes. The water just ceased to be once it hit the floor. So I suspect it's some sort of holographic training mode for when the environmental systems malfunction or the fire suppression systems kick in that Isaac hijacked to impress Claire.

The displays were also unaffected, and Mercer made Lamarr keep his drink beneath his station in S1 presumably so he wouldn't spill it on the displays (and because it looks unprofessional, but I think that's less of a concern).

And/or the floors are just made of hydrophobic materials that repel liquids and there are vents lining the perimeter of the room.
 
On another note... Was it me or where there a *lot* of establishing shot in the episode? Shots of the ship moving between scenes? I get it was an episode where there were a lot of scene changes and time jumps, but it seemed like there were just way too many shots of the ship flying by at [warp] and stuff.
LOL...I found myself chuckling over noticing this. Back in the day, how many times did I grumble over the Trek shows using the same stock shots over and over, wishing they had tbe money to create fresh ship fly bys more frequently. And here I was jittering-no, no! Too many brand new fx shots! Stop it...Stop it! :)
 
Wow, this was a great episode. I was a little surprised that we didn't have a bigger more actiony story to go along with the Claire/Isaac drama, but it really didn't need it, their story ended being enough to sustain the whole episode. This could have been a disaster, but it really was saved by a good script and great performances. We got some great moments here, like Isaac flipping over the table, his being an asshole to get Clair to break up with him, and the rain scene at the end. I loved the image of Isaac in the white tank top and tighty whiteys, that almost made the whole episode worth it by itself.
I can't help but wonder how much of a nightmare it was to dry off the bridge set after that last scene. At first I thought maybe it was CGI, but then I realized everyone was getting wet, and the water was pooling up on the surfaces.
So was that the guy who voices Isaac as the human Isaac?
I got a big kick out of seeing Norm McDonald as the human Yaphit, I've been wondering if he might pop up onscreen somewhere but this was not how I expected it to happen.
 
LOL...I found myself chuckling over noticing this. Back in the day, how many times did I grumble over the Trek shows using the same stock shots over and over, wishing they had tbe money to create fresh ship fly bys more frequently. And here I was jittering-no, no! Too many brand new fx shots! Stop it...Stop it! :)
On the upside, get them done now, and you don't have to make room for them in the budget later.

Wow, this was a great episode. I was a little surprised that we didn't have a bigger more actiony story to go along with the Claire/Isaac drama, but it really didn't need it, their story ended being enough to sustain the whole episode. This could have been a disaster, but it really was saved by a good script and great performances. We got some great moments here, like Isaac flipping over the table, his being an asshole to get Clair to break up with him, and the rain scene at the end. I loved the image of Isaac in the white tank top and tighty whiteys, that almost made the whole episode worth it by itself.
I can't help but wonder how much of a nightmare it was to dry off the bridge set after that last scene. At first I thought maybe it was CGI, but then I realized everyone was getting wet, and the water was pooling up on the surfaces.
So was that the guy who voices Isaac as the human Isaac?
I got a big kick out of seeing Norm McDonald as the human Yaphit, I've been wondering if he might pop up onscreen somewhere but this was not how I expected it to happen.
Yep, that was Mark Jackson who is the voice of Isaac.

Adorable, isn't he? ♥
 
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