Well, that was quite a shakeup! (In a good way.)
Working on some thoughts about what might have happened between Michael and Spock, but I have to sleep on it before I can put them all together. For now, just a few quick replies to others...
Maybe he’ll be the Albino from DS9
Anyone else think the son of L'Rell and Voq is the Albino?
Anyone else think tht Child is the Albino from Ds9?
I thought about that too, as a possibility. Personally, I never really felt that the Albino was meant to be a Klingon in "Blood Oath" (DS9)—nobody says he is there, and in the
script he's only identified as a humanoid—but I know that some licensed non-canon sources have said he was, and there's nothing in the episode to say he isn't.
I have a feeling that we haven't seen the last of baby Voq. Although I don't buy into the Albino theories, it would put an interesting twist on the Albino's vendetta against certain Klingon houses-- including Kor.
And it would also tie in with the "take his revenge on the firstborn" angle. I'm not entirely convinced of it, either, but it's most intriguing.
I thought Klingon blood was purple?
Only in ST6. It’s red in the TV shows.
It seems to me for DSC they've gone with something in between, which appears more toward one or the other depending on the light. I've noticed it from the beginning, when Burnham slew Rejac, and thought it was quite clever:
"The Vulcan Hello" (DSC):
"Battle At The Binary Stars" (DSC):
"Point Of Light" (DSC):
L'Rell = terrible. They referenced the male Rape stuff from season one, but even consensual relations with L'Rell should be considered male rape. What a horrid beast.
Not gonna lie...I'm into her, and have been all along. I've had a bit of a thing for female Klingons since watching TNG in childhood (major crush on K'Ehleyr), and she's no exception. She's always reminded me of Mara from "Day Of The Dove" (TOS), somehow.
(Also, "male rape"? Isn't it just rape? You know what, nevermind, don't bother answering that...sorry I asked.)
Hang on? Wasn't the Vulcan High Command dissolved? What's Amanda bringing it up for?
Vulcan High Command was first mentioned in one of 24th century series, so I guess it was reformed at some point
T'Pau said it would be "dissolved" after the conclusion of "Kir'Shara" (ENT), and T'Pol confirmed that it had been "disbanded" in "United" (ENT), which left many Vulcan ships without full crew complements. But who knows what happened after that? It may have been reconstituted to meet the looming Romulan threat. (I wonder if this could have anything to do with her refusal of a seat on the Federation Council, per "Amok Time" [TOS]?)
The episode where it was first mentioned was "Infinite Regress" (VGR). Seven of Nine manifested the personality of a Subaltern Lorot of the Vulcan High Command, who had been assimilated by the Borg. (No mention was made of
when or
where, but an assumption that it was sometime in the 24th century is what originally led to the theory of it being restored at some point after ENT. They probably picked that up from Memory Alpha.)
Now, they are adding a loony-bin artificial intelligence program, created within the Federation and antagonistic to the values of the Federation, into the canon Star Trek.
(Info on CONTROL:
Control_(program))
Well, thanks for posting that link, because I had no idea what other posters were referring to before you did! (I've never read any
Trek novels other than Roddenberry's adaptation of TMP, myself.) As someone else said,
if there is in fact a connection there, I wonder if there might also be any link to Zora from the "Calypso" short?
I liked when L’Rell was talking to the council in Klingon, but what we heard changed to English. Very Hunt for Red October-esque.
Yep. That's the way they did it in TUC as well. Always liked that sort of transition. And as others have said, I got a kick out of how at the moment they switched, the subtitles briefly went to Klingon! (Also, L'Rell doing the "previously on..." in Klingonese, too.)
I skipped DS9 all together.
You missed out big time. For my money, DS9 is the
only previous
Trek show that just kept getting better and better through its entire run. (That's right folks, while I recognize it's a contrary opinion to many, I think ENT's first season was its best. I find it quite underrated, and the third and fourth rather overrated by comparison. Sorry.)
The planet the baby Voq was sent to, isn't that the same planet Worf went to and met the Kahless clone?
Yes.
If so was baby Voq one of the Klingons worf met?
I don't remember any albinos in "Righful Heir" (TNG), but he was there a while, and it's not as if we saw everyone he met.
Also may be why the episode is called "Point of Light".
Yes, surely.
Oh, absolutely. That family is probably the most messed up one in Trek, and Sarek seems to be at the root of most of it.
Not to absolve him, as he surely made many mistakes, but ultimately I'd say toxic Vulcan culture is at the root of it. More on that tomorrow...
This was an apology episode from the writers. Klingon hair, communication with screens, and making their ships look like something familiar by showing us D7 which I'm pretty sure has been around before this, making the attitudes of the crew less dark. I liked star trek more when it was the writers that showed us the trek universe rather than the other way around. You can tell that they did a course correction in response to the fan reaction.
I kept getting distracted by watching them do canon-repair work during the episode. [...] They invested a lot of valuable precious minutes correcting their own inconsistencies.
Gee, it's almost like they're doing exactly as they said they would all along...
“The audience just has to be patient, because typically, if it seems like we’re violating canon, we know,” said Harberts. “We know that people might have knee-jerk reactions to things. But we have a plan.”
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Slate, 21 September 2017
O ye of little faith! First, you gripe about the "inconsistencies." Now, you gripe about the "course correction"! Since you obviously enjoy complaining so much, you should be happy they've given you so much to complain about!
And as for the one-off
K't'inga in "Unexpected" (ENT), it was only a stand-in for a
more primitive precursor (variously referred to behind the scenes as a D-4, D-5, or D-6), which had been designed by John Eaves and built as a CGI model by Koji Kuramura, but then was axed at the last minute because, and I shit you not, the producers decided
they wanted more windows on it.
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MMoM
