Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x03 - "Point of Light"

Agree with this, but concluding the intercession with grown up spore child May was not a missed opportunity. Tilly no longer wanted to suspend her disbelief with half answers and opaque clues, considering what she was going through. Get out while the getting's good.

 

I was kind of hoping that the apparition of May was actually one of the Red Angel aliens trying to communicate with Tilly and using the image of an old childhood friend to do so. The whole "spore ghost" thing isn't the most disappointing route the writers could have taken but it sure isn't very satisfying.

 

Well, for me, that was a step in the right direction. I really enjoyed the first two episodes, but this one felt like it put a lot of pieces into play that have been missing thus far. It was never going to have the emotional satisfaction of, say, New Eden, as it is not a self-contained story, and has neither beginning or ending. To expect such would have been rather unfair; like so many prior episodes of Trek throughout the years, how this one ranks will depend on how further beats in the story unfold. But it did add a slew of new pieces to the game board.

If there is a weakness here, it's the direction. The camerawork was distracting. There's an art to framing character beats to sell them, and the direction didn't support them as well as it could have, particularly during Amanda's walk away from Michael and the scene with Stamets, Tilly, Michael, and Saru. In those moments, the beats that mattered got swallowed in the staging. Similarly, the staging of the Klingon fight left something to be desired compared, for instance, to the staging of the final fight scene on board the Charon.

It's so great to see the Klingons again, as they're the element I can now see I've been missing this season, and wow--that was some gorgeous production design and costuming. The prostheses for L'Rell allow greater expression, which is also nice. I'm curious to see where the infant story goes, but mostly I just want more L'Rell.

I like the May story thus far, as it seems clear that this isn't just an alien invasion/possession story and will feed into a bigger story. I'm curious where it goes.

Also, Michelle Yeoh is a delight. I could watch a whole show about her. Oh wait...

 

This was an okay episode. An arc bridge episode. So I gave it a 6.

I liked the unresolved emotional beats of the final Burnham-Amanda scene. It also left me unsettled. I understand what Burnham did and why, feeling for her. But I also sympathize with Amanda, whose son
was hurt by his foster sister.

Then again, Amanda has a part in stunting Spock emotionally, as well as contributing to the rift between him and Michael.

The Klingon stuff was a'right. I don't really care for Klingon stuff in general. It's played out in Trek. But Michelle Yeoh is fun. And I immediately thought the kid would grow up to be the Albanio too.

The Tilly stuff is entertaining, but we know it's set up to bring Hugh back.

I wonder if Saru getting sick will bump Michael up to XO... putting her on track to become captain by season's end or next season.

I like the A/B/C structure if done well. Hill Street Blues was really good at balancing that structure as was Babylon 5.

 

Right, so...

Spoiler

I wonder how many episodes or seasons it'll take for the Klingons to find out about what really happened to Tyler?

On a related note: I'm glad he has something to do now besides being L'Rell's boyfriend.

 

Maybe Connolly wasn't all that unlucky after all.

He may have died young, but the candle that burns brightest and all that....

 

It starts to open the door for Stamet's return.
Spore Ghost never got to say what she wanted or why "captain" stamets was important

 

Enterprise is back too as we will see Number One.

 

Another returnee - the engineer from the Hia

 

Well, with one viewing a 9.
Sooo much to take in, I'm not sure I even got it all.
A lot of Easter eggs tossed in from all over the Trek Universe.

Still love Tilly.

 

So, on reflection, what ties every story here together is this: we might think we got away with questionable choices, but we sure didn't.

• Michael confesses her actions toward Spock, which creates a rift between her and Amanda.
• L'Rell thinks she can keep the baby from Ash, which kind of blows up on them.
• Ash doesn't tell L'Rell about the call to Michael, which also kind of blows up on them.
  
• Tilly tried to suppress May, and that also ended up being a disaster. Or near-disaster.

Edit: Also, it's amazing to me that Memory Beta has already updated its article on Control. Kudos to the editors.

 

Tilly truly is the crown jewel of star trek

 

The planet the baby Voq was sent to, isn't that the same planet Worf went to and met the Kahless clone? If so was baby Voq one of the Klingons worf met? Also may be why the episode is called "Point of Light".

Section 31 is obviously more mainstream during this time, it must go underground sometime before DS9 time.

The music during Klingon scenes was nice, was kind of similar to previous Klingon themes.

 

A bit early. For all we know Control is just a name for the heads here.

 

I usually don't like Klingon episodes either. Disco is the first series to really get me interested in them in ages--this episode gave them a sense of scale and let us see them without such emphasis on a Federation vantage point, which I appreciate.

I'm mainly just impressed at the speed of the edit than anything else. It might well be something else.

 

Yeah I think you are right about the direction and where Kor is concerned he is still my favorite Klingon performance and depiction. He is all about the business of being a soldier and less of the pomp and circumstance from later shows like TNG and DS9. Sometimes the Klingons feel like animals driven too much by their passion, rituals and traditions. Kor seems more rational, business like and professional (the drink scene with "I respect you Captain but this war" & "minor ideological differences" is great).

That said I like the new episode and like the way the Klingons have been handled on Discovery (and any criticism of TNG and DS9 is minor as I love those shows).

 

I loved the episode and it might be my favorite of the entire show with maybe only the Mudd, Groundhog Day. episode being better. I usually didn't like the Klingons in season 1 but they are improved here though they still really aren't Klingons. They are Orc's but they are at least more interesting Orc's in this episode. The fight scene was intense and I loved how bloody it was. One of them should have at Kor's dad'd heart or something like your suppose to in Klingon tradition.
I also enjoy the setup for Section 31 and the ship also looks kind of cool but I will loose it I find out that CONTROL which is from a book I haven't read becomes full canon. From what I understand in the book Section 31 is ran by the AI but to me that is the dumbest idea in the history of Trek. I can live though with the idea they have a AI system that helps out. I almost cried when TIlly was crying and loved the stuff with Amanda.
The viewscreen scene did bother me I can sort of get behind the idea if we find out the holograms are like a Fad or at some point they will become a security risk and thus Starfleet fully goes back to viewscreens. To be honest whats so dated about a viewscreen to begin with the show felt they needed to stop using them? Anyways only thing really missing was Connolly. I think everyone agree's the first act should have been about his funeral and maybe a flashback between PIke and Connolly first meeting and finding out PIke sort of saw him as a son.

Jason

 

I have a feeling Sarek will see Michael's actions as logical.

I understand Amanda's reaction to the revelation, but Sarek probably did more damage to Spock with his insistence to rear him in the "Vulcan Way".

 

Oh, absolutely. That family is probably the most messed up one in Trek, and Sarek seems to be at the root of most of it.

 

Now we just need to name drop “T’Pol” somewhere