Record Weekend for Subscriptions for CBS All Access

[donners22]

As so many others have asked, why would any of the new shows need to be replacements for any CBSAA shows, least of all DSC?

This is not broadcast network TV. CBS' streaming service can create and stream as many Trek shows or any other kind), that they want to. There is no need to consider time slots, or counter programing, or any of those "old world" considerations.

I would like to ask someone at CBS why they changed the release day for new episodes from Sunday to Thursday. I'm sure that wasn't done by accident.

Sure, but each show costs a fair bit to produce, and iit ultimately comes down to return on investment.

A second, third, fourth, fifth show will not each generate the same subs as the first.

I assume the idea is to spread them out over the year to get people subbing year-long, but plenty will sub only for a month at a time and binge multiple shows.

I would expect that they would not attract the same money from Netflix as well - the first Trek show in more than a decade is a lot more attractive than the fourth simultaneous show.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

I straddle the line between two different library systems and there must still be a segment of the population that like having physical media, because I checked both websites the day Star Trek Discovery came out on DVD/Blu-Ray and on one I'd be #426 out of 116 copies in use and on the other I'd be #171 of 40 copies in use. One won't be available until mid-March.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

It would be smart of them to just air the shows separately. Example:

Trek 1 - January to April
Trek 2 - May to August
Trek 3 - September to December

This would be much simpler and more focused than trying to air two shows simultaneously like in the 90s with TNG/DS9, then DS9/VOY.

 

[Cyrus]

It would be smart of them to just air the shows separately. Example:

Trek 1 - January to April
Trek 2 - May to August
Trek 3 - September to December

This would be much simpler and more focused than trying to air two shows simultaneously like in the 90s with TNG/DS9, then DS9/VOY.

I believe that is their plan, with Short Treks filling any gaps.

 

[Noname Given]

Funny thing about the Picard show is that from what I understand it’s not going to be an ongoing Trek series like we’ve been used to, but rather a limited series event. Which would make sense. I’m not sure Stewart wants to commit to shooting on set wearing a space suit for another seven years.

The man is 79 this year - so (unless they decide to recast if something happens) I don't really think they're going "Yes, he'll be around a while and will want to continue 12-14 hour shooting days for that time."

I think it's going to be decided on:
- Is/Will this show be popular.
- Is Patrick Stewart healthy enough/willing to put up with the grind (and TV production is a grind) for more than one season?

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Largely depends on what Stewart wants out of it. All the hubhub is that he wants this to be his LOGAN where he gets one lash hurrah. I think it would be unique for Trek to not treat this as just another ongoing series. Just tell the story you want to tell in a series of episodes, with whatever you had set up all tied up at the end with no plans to come back... and then leave it alone, especially if it turns out excellent.

 

[BillJ]

You don't need cable for broadcast networks. They can invest in an antenna instead and get all the broadcast channels.

I live at the base of a hill, and I hardly get anything. Terrain has a great deal to do with what you can and cannot get OTA.

 

[Visitor1982]

Kurtzman has already confirmed Picard is going to be an ongoing series.

 

[eschaton]

Largely depends on what Stewart wants out of it. All the hubhub is that he wants this to be his LOGAN where he gets one lash hurrah. I think it would be unique for Trek to not treat this as just another ongoing series. Just tell the story you want to tell in a series of episodes, with whatever you had set up all tied up at the end with no plans to come back... and then leave it alone, especially if it turns out excellent.

I mean, the thing is once the Picard series is established - even if it's just a 1-3 season thing - they're certainly going to bring a number of other characters in - likely a mixture of entirely new characters and fan favorites from the Berman era. It would be trivially easy to set up one or more spinoffs whenever Sir Patrick is tired of the grind. They might even be able to keep on the same showrunner, writing team, and some of the same sets, making it very seamless in terms of development.

 

[BurnhamAll]

I enjoy Discovery and can’t stand the hate-baiting YouTubers, but the indication that “Some of these [new shows] can be considered as replacements as opposed to additions” [per Julie McNamara] is a troubling one.

The Picard show hasn’t started, Lower Decks is some way off and has a two-season order and the Georgiou show isn’t meant to start until after Disco S3.

What is there for one of those shows to replace other than Discovery?

I do believe she meant replacements for when DSC is not airing. IE: if they continue to take 6-10 months between seasons, Picard will be a replacement for regularly-released new content on CBSAA while DSC is on hiatus.

A very smart move, frankly.

 

[NeoStar9]

It would be smart of them to just air the shows separately. Example:

Trek 1 - January to April
Trek 2 - May to August
Trek 3 - September to December

This would be much simpler and more focused than trying to air two shows simultaneously like in the 90s with TNG/DS9, then DS9/VOY.

This how I imagine it as well with maybe slot 1 for example has Trek 1 and Trek 4 alternating each year. That way you don't 4 shows with 4 separate budgets but maybe two shows are sharing an overall budget and during that time show1/Trek1 gets Short Trek episodes until it goes back into full production. That is another way of juggling multiple shows and not putting out to much content.

Also shows don't have to be a set schedule either. Look at Discovery. Season 1 started back in Oct/Nov while season 2 started in January. If you have shows air when they're ready and have them rotate you could get the following.

Trek 1 - Jan - April 2019
Trek 2 - May - Aug
Trek 3 - Sept - Dec
Trek 4 - Jan - April 2020
Trek 3 - May - Aug
Trek 1 - Sept - Dec
Trek 2 - Jan - April 2021

 

[MvRojo]

This how I imagine it as well with maybe slot 1 for example has Trek 1 and Trek 4 alternating each year. That way you don't 4 shows with 4 separate budgets but maybe two shows are sharing an overall budget and during that time show1/Trek1 gets Short Trek episodes until it goes back into full production. That is another way of juggling multiple shows and not putting out to much content.

Also shows don't have to be a set schedule either. Look at Discovery. Season 1 started back in Oct/Nov while season 2 started in January. If you have shows air when they're ready and have them rotate you could get the following.

Trek 1 - Jan - April 2019
Trek 2 - May - Aug
Trek 3 - Sept - Dec
Trek 4 - Jan - April 2020
Trek 3 - May - Aug
Trek 1 - Sept - Dec
Trek 2 - Jan - April 2021

Keep in mind that they could dump whole seasons out as well. I think the animated show is probably a good candidate for that. They won't do that with the live action shows since they involve some much post-production, but they've already ordered two seasons of the animated show. CBSAA also already did that with the second season of "No Activity," the comedy series.

 

[Mudd]

Keep in mind that they could dump whole seasons out as well.

There's not much motivation to dump whole seasons unless you're putting out enough new material for your service that you're going to have a new series to dump at intervals throughout the year.

 

[eschaton]

There's not much motivation to dump whole seasons unless you're putting out enough new material for your service that you're going to have a new series to dump at intervals throughout the year.

Ironically I checked The Expanse's reddit today and there seems to be a notable minority upset Season 4 is gonna drop all at once on Amazon Prime and is pushing for week by week release.

 

[MvRojo]

There's not much motivation to dump whole seasons unless you're putting out enough new material for your service that you're going to have a new series to dump at intervals throughout the year.

They've already done it though so there's precedent.

 

[NeoStar9]

Keep in mind that they could dump whole seasons out as well. I think the animated show is probably a good candidate for that.

I was thinking that until I saw what Warner Bros was doing with Young Justice Outsiders. They release three episodes a week with each episode being 22 minutes. The entire season is 26 episodes with them releasing the first 13 episodes now and the rest later in the year.

 

[MvRojo]

I was thinking that until I saw what Warner Bros was doing with Young Justice Outsiders. They release three episodes a week with each episode being 22 minutes. The entire season is 26 episodes with them releasing the first 13 episodes now and the rest later in the year.

That's a possibility as well. They've already given the show a two season order because of the time required for animation.

 

[thribs]

What about Amazon with Grand Tour?

 

[Skulkin' Vulcan]

Hi, new here...so how is CBSAA handling the episodes? Still 1x week but at least are they running them all consecutively without leaving weeks of gaps between?

 

[Tuskin38]

Hi, new here...so how is CBSAA handling the episodes? Still 1x week but at least are they running them all consecutively without leaving weeks of gaps between?

It's one a week, and they have no planned breaks, not even a mid-season break.