Red Angel Theories- Post Here

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

^ This is one of those times when I wish I could like a post more than once.

Also, She-Ra fans! I'm only on episode 5, trying to make the show last... after finishing Hilda in two sittings.

 

[Sir Stewart Wallace]

It's the Furies! Maybe. I don't know.

 

[Manchester]

No, I didn't say it was bad. But it is irrational, knee-jerk judgemental, and just plain ridiculous.

It’s irrational to not be interested in something if it doesn’t peak your interest?

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

Spock said the supernova that destroyed Romulus had the potential to destroy the galaxy if he didn't stop it with the red matter. Could the red angel have to do with the red matter, giving Spock some advanced notice on something they'd need way down the road? One possibility, anyway.

 

[XCV330]

Spock said the supernova that destroyed Romulus had the potential to destroy the galaxy if he didn't stop it with the red matter. Could the red angel have to do with the red matter, giving Spock some advanced notice on something they'd need way down the road? One possibility, anyway.

and if the red matter hits a blue ship, is the crew marooned?

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

and if the red matter hits a blue ship, is the crew marooned?

I believe that only happens if the ship is using a microwave at the time.

 

[Yistaan]

Spock said the supernova that destroyed Romulus had the potential to destroy the galaxy if he didn't stop it with the red matter. Could the red angel have to do with the red matter, giving Spock some advanced notice on something they'd need way down the road? One possibility, anyway.

Well I don't know if Discovery has the rights to Red Matter. I hear they're having enough trouble talking about Romulus' destruction on Picard's show as it is due to separation of tv/film rights.

What we can conclude is that red angels are not the most dangerous adversary the Enterprise (and by extension Discovery) ever faced. Spock himself reserved that category for Khan in "Star Trek Into Darkness". Although considering V'Ger killed a bunch of people, the Whale Probe did a lot of damage, "God" killed Spock's own half-brother presumably permanently, and all the threats that were faced in TOS, one wonders if Spock isn't being just a little bit emotionally biased just because he himself happened to be killed indirectly by Khan (and even that wasn't permanent).

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

For sure. But it was pretty convenient that they had the red matter laying around to use against the supernova, and this would be an explanation for it (assuming they're able to iron out any legal issues). I'm not all that into JJ's Star Treks, but if they're trying to weave it all together, then it's a possibility to consider. At the same time, it could be something with no precedent in any of the Star Treks, just like how Q was thrown into TNG as a brand new thing, so no amount of guessing would hit the nail on the head if that's the case here.

 

[Yistaan]

For sure. But it was pretty convenient that they had the red matter laying around to use against the supernova, and this would be an explanation for it (assuming they're able to iron out any legal issues). I'm not all that into JJ's Star Treks, but if they're trying to weave it all together, then it's a possibility to consider. At the same time, it could be something with no precedent in any of the Star Treks, just like how Q was thrown into TNG as a brand new thing, so no amount of guessing would hit the nail on the head if that's the case here.

From what's been revealed on the Picard show, Picard will have his life disheveled by Romulus' destruction. There's nothing in canon to indicate why this would be so, making me think they will canonize 'Star Trek Countdown' in which Picard was an ambassador on Vulcan and failed to convince them to use red matter to save Romulus, leading Nero (and likely the Romulan survivors) to blame Picard and his friends (including Spock) for failing Romulus.

If that's so, then the explanation in Countdown is that red matter is a derived substance from decalithium, a normal ore, and has nothing to do with any red angels.

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

From what's been revealed on the Picard show, Picard will have his life disheveled by Romulus' destruction. There's nothing in canon to indicate why this would be so, making me think they will canonize 'Star Trek Countdown' in which Picard was an ambassador on Vulcan and failed to convince them to use red matter to save Romulus, leading Nero (and likely the Romulan survivors) to blame Picard and his friends (including Spock) for failing Romulus.

If that's so, then the explanation in Countdown is that red matter is a derived substance from decalithium, a normal ore, and has nothing to do with any red angels.

Very interesting. Throughout TNG (as in "The Defector") and where things were left in Star Trek: Nemesis, Picard seemed to demonstrate a real desire to see relations with Romulus improve, so if that became his obsession after killing his clone/Shinzon in Nemesis, that could explain why he took its destruction so hard. Perhaps he became obsessed with creating an radically different relationship between the Empire and the Federation than what Shinzon had fanatically pursued. Shinzon had become obsessed with Picard and his legacy, and maybe Picard had done likewise, to some degree or another.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Actually, in the original script the word was 'Printtress' but Nimoy pronounced it wrong but no one said anything. Sybok was actually the son of Vulcan's most prominent printer and photocopying academy head mistress.

K'nko

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

K'nko

Daughter of X'rox

 

[dahj]

Also, She-Ra fans! I'm only on episode 5, trying to make the show last...

That was my plan as well, but I only managed to stretch it to a fortnight.

 

[BurnhamAll]

It’s irrational to not be interested in something if it doesn’t peak your interest?

After 10 seconds? Yes. Please read the full context, don't cherry pick and twist.

 

[BurnhamAll]

Spock said the supernova that destroyed Romulus had the potential to destroy the galaxy if he didn't stop it with the red matter. Could the red angel have to do with the red matter, giving Spock some advanced notice on something they'd need way down the road? One possibility, anyway.

I highly doubt the two stories will be connected in any way.

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

I highly doubt the two stories will be connected in any way.

Indeed. I'm not sold on the idea myself, but just wanted to toss something into the mix that might not have been mentioned yet. Writers' desire to connect all the dots in prequels is usually a strong one, so we'll see.

 

[DaveyNY]

It will also give us a chance to find out what the heck a Vulcan princess is.

I'd say T'Pring is the ultimate Vulcan "Princess".

As in a girl that has been pampered, sheltered and spoiled (in a Vulcan way) her whole life.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Forget about the Vulcan Princess, I'm more interested in the Vulcan Brain, the Vulcan Jock, the Vulcan Basket Case and the Vulcan Criminal anyway

 

[DaveyNY]

Very interesting. Throughout TNG (as in "The Defector") and where things were left in Star Trek: Nemesis, Picard seemed to demonstrate a real desire to see relations with Romulus improve, so if that became his obsession after killing his clone/Shinzon in Nemesis, that could explain why he took its destruction so hard. Perhaps he became obsessed with creating an radically different relationship between the Empire and the Federation than what Shinzon had fanatically pursued. Shinzon had become obsessed with Picard and his legacy, and maybe Picard had done likewise, to some degree or another.

Picard also did a mind-meld with Spock.
That too could be part of his obsession with making amends with the Romulans.

 

[dahj]

I'm more interested in the Vulcan Brain,

I think there's a whole episode on that...