The X-Men Cinematic Universe (General Discussion)
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Apocalypse is the one X-Men film (not counting Deadpool and its sequel) I don't yet own, largely because of the fact that I don't really make movie or TV purchases all that often.
One thing I don't get about the comics (I've read many but haven't read a lot more) is why didn't and don't comic book Magneto and Mystique (who led different Brotherhood of Mutants groups at different times) work together? Was it just random chance, do they actually have different beliefs and goals or is it due to personal distrust or dislike?
A couple of new details about the movie:
Dark Phoenix Director Reveals X-Men Film Draws On Secret Invasion Comics
Dark Phoenix: Jessica Chastain’s Villain Will Battle All X-Men At Once
Dark Phoenix Director Reveals X-Men Film Draws On Secret Invasion Comics
Dark Phoenix: Jessica Chastain’s Villain Will Battle All X-Men At Once
Looks good but if they screw with the timeline again by killing her parents when she was a child I will NOT be happy.
Alleged first review of Dark Phoenix is not positive...
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/x-men-dark-phoenix-reaction-calls-embarrassment-involved/
Also, new images from New Mutants.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-me...GLIX2_zXsMOk7ACKUKsTErIP07qaoGHZwBE8khZcZsE94 it
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/x-men-dark-phoenix-reaction-calls-embarrassment-involved/
Also, new images from New Mutants.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-me...GLIX2_zXsMOk7ACKUKsTErIP07qaoGHZwBE8khZcZsE94 it
We Got This Covered is a BS clickbait factory.
Also, it was blatantly obvious from the trailers - as well as the way the franchise's time travel mechanic works - that Dark Phoenix is going to be far more similar to The Last Stand than some people want to believe.
Also, it was blatantly obvious from the trailers - as well as the way the franchise's time travel mechanic works - that Dark Phoenix is going to be far more similar to The Last Stand than some people want to believe.
And yet, I have no doubt as to the accuracy of the report.
Based on what?
Oh yeah!
X-men movies is still a thing.
Apocalypse killed all momentum of the dying breath of that franchise (except Deadpool) for me.
X-men movies is still a thing.
Apocalypse killed all momentum of the dying breath of that franchise (except Deadpool) for me.
People can crap on the XMCU all they want, but it didn't last 19 years "by accident".
Days of Future's Past is my 2nd favourite superhero movie. X-Men had a fantastic run with some excellent highs.
But all empires fall and nothing lasts forever.
They should have ended that run that high note. Apocalypse was awful and Phoenix looks to be a continuation of that based on the trailer, maybe even worse with all of the X3 callbacks.
^ Apocalypse made money, and the producers had more stories they wanted to tell; ending the franchise with DoFP "because it was good" isn't how things work.
My lack of denial.
^ How is refusing to believe a known peddler of BS "being in denial"?
No, but "we're selling the studio" isn't the worst excuse to end a franchise either.
I actually liked The Last Stand. Its similarities with X3 aren’t what bother me - it’s that they Git away from their roots. IMHO - one of the biggest strengths of the X-men movie series is how it resonated with themes and issues relevant to their time - racism, discrimination, prejudice. The first few movies (especially X2) kind of “Star Treked” big social issues like gay rights when they were a very hot issue (not that it isn’t now but there was lots of back and forth with “gay marriage rights” vs protection of “traditional marriage” via state laws and appeals. They had to - superhero movies hadn’t become as mainstream yet so they had to really hold back on a lot of the trappings of that genre.
To me, the later movies, like apocalypse and DOFP didn’t seem have the same kind of resonance to current issues. At best, they were good superhero movies. But with Marvel already doing good superhero films pretty successfully, X-men movies just didn’t seem as special. Adding the mutant cure into X3 at least kept that film tuned in to the social issues and themes set up in the first two films. The Phoenix sagas were some really good stories - but they didn’t offer much in the way of parallels to relevant issues the way the first two films did.
To me, the later movies, like apocalypse and DOFP didn’t seem have the same kind of resonance to current issues. At best, they were good superhero movies. But with Marvel already doing good superhero films pretty successfully, X-men movies just didn’t seem as special. Adding the mutant cure into X3 at least kept that film tuned in to the social issues and themes set up in the first two films. The Phoenix sagas were some really good stories - but they didn’t offer much in the way of parallels to relevant issues the way the first two films did.
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