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News Georgiou Section 31 Series officially announced:

Not really.
Well, given the cries for a series set post-NEM, and for familiar characters, the Picard series comes as no shock.

As for Georgiou, she is a very popular character, so CBS found a way to bring her back. That's what people were talking about her and her character.
You don't have to, CBS is sure to prime the Trek pump as much as it can, just like it's other formulaic series such as JAG, & CSI.
JAG only had one series, and 8 seasons. O_o
 
I personally don't find Mirror Georgiou to be interesting enough to warrant having a show based around her. Much less the regular Georgiou. But what do I know? I'm not a television producer.

As for the Picard show, my biggest fear is that it's actually going to be about Patrick Stewart, not Jean-Luc Picard. The TNG movies certainly weren't about Picard.
 
I personally don't find Mirror Georgiou to be interesting enough to warrant having a show based around her. Much less the regular Georgiou. But what do I know? I'm not a television producer.

As for the Picard show, my biggest fear is that it's actually going to be about Patrick Stewart, not Jean-Luc Picard. The TNG movies certainly weren't about Picard.
Oh, I agree, and the choice is odd. I suspect it was trying to work with Yeoh's popularity.

As for the show being about Patrick Stewart I have no doubt that you are right.
 
Section 31 are closer to Gladio than the CIA or FBI.

Gladio (and it's sister organisations) were completely off the books "Anti-Communist stay behind" forces that throughout the cold war engaged in assassinations and terrorism and supporting far-right groups across Europe. Till this day there is very little known directly about them beyond what has come out of inquiries of several European countries such as Italy, Belgium, Switzerland and France.
Cracked had a pretty fun little article about them
http://www.cracked.com/article_20165_the-5-most-insane-covert-cold-war-missions.html

Anyway

"Well, Starfleet live in a very black-and-white world, they have rules, they have to stick to those rules, you can bend them but you can't break them,” Kurtzman explained. “Section 31 lives entirely in shades of gray. And they do all of the things that Starfleet proper can't do. And that's really interesting, because when you have a character like Georgiou whose conscience is constantly being tested, and her ethics are constantly being tested, she's really in some ways the perfect person to do the dirty work that Starfleet can't do. And, that's an exciting place to explore. It's a little bit gloves off which is what's fun about Section 31.”

Man this guy should not be allowed within 1000km of any Trek property. Holy shit how can he be wrong about literally EVERYTHING?
 
I suggested on the last Section 31 thread that there are essentially two different Section 31, the offical Section 31, which was formed as the 'deniable operations' section within Earth Starfleet, and later transferred over to Starfleet Intelligence after the UFP was formed. This is the version of 31 that appeared in ENT, Beyond, and Discovery/'The Georgiou Show' and is similar to CIA Special Activities Division (and potentially DEVGRU/Delta) who's missions include:

As the action arm of the CIA's Directorate of Operations, SAD/SOG conducts direct action missions such as raids, ambushes, sabotage, targeted killings[11][12][13] and unconventional warfare (e.g., training and leading guerrilla and military units of other countries in combat). SAD/SOG also conducts special reconnaissance that can be either military or intelligence driven and is carried out by Paramilitary Officers (also called Paramilitary Operatives or Paramilitary Operations Officers) when in "non-permissive environments". Paramilitary Operations Officers are also fully trained case officers (i.e., "spy handlers") and as such conduct clandestine human intelligence (HUMINT) operations throughout the world.[14]

The political action group within SAD conducts the deniable psychological operations, also known as black propaganda, as well as "covert influence" to effect political change in other countries as part of United States foreign policy.[1] Covert intervention in foreign elections is the most significant form of SAD's political action. This involves financial support for favored candidates, media guidance, technical support for public relations, get-out-the-vote or political organizing efforts, legal expertise, advertising campaigns, assistance with poll-watching, and other means of direct action. Policy decisions are influenced by agents, such as subverted officials of the country, to make decisions in their official capacity that are in the furtherance of US policy aims. In addition, mechanisms for forming and developing opinions involve the covert use of propaganda.[15]


On the other hand, the version of Section 31 that we mostly if not excusively saw in DS9 was a small cadre was a small cadre of rogue agents, led by Sloane, possibly triggered by the assassination of Vice Admiral Fujisaki, who fooled certain Starfleet officers (Ross, Bashir) into following their agenda for the 'greater good'.

This has been my theory as well.
Something might happen that causes the public facing organization to be disavowed/dissolved and the core agents going underground.

Look, I hate to keep going back to this, but Section 31 just does whatever it feels like. Don't you see how dangerous that is? They have NO rules. None. Not a single one. They literally do whatever they want.

Well they have one rule, protect the Federation at all costs. Though I guess technically that could be a directive.

Man this guy should not be allowed within 1000km of any Trek property. Holy shit how can he be wrong about literally EVERYTHING?

He isn’t wrong about anything in that quote.
He described section 31 and Starfleet perfectly.
 
On Michelle Yeoh as the star - She's been a household name in the US since "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon". She's been a household name in China for longer. She might be the biggest name to headline a Star Trek show in the history of the franchise. Her name recognition nor acting ability hasn't changed since she was cast in Discovery.

On Mirror Georgiou as the protagonist
- I agree with the apprehension some people feel. Prime Georgiou was a benevolent and matronly character that we just barely got to know. Her arc was spoiled by Burnham's nonsensical mutiny, which I still consider to be the original sin of "Discovery". Getting past that though, Mirror Georgiou was perfect for the Mirror universe. The twist of bringing her into the prime timeline as an imposter was deliciously devious. The mirror universe and its wild characterizations are meant to work in small doses. Best case scenario, it could be like Heath Ledger's Joker spreading a little chaos in the Star Trek Universe. Worst case is probably hammy acting all around and wild plot every episode.

On Section 31 as the premise - It's the only way she can be a "Special Agent" in Starfleet. The ties to Deep Space 9 will be non-existent.

On Oversaturation
- In 1993-1994 between TNG Season 7 and DS9 Season 2 there were 52 episodes of Star Trek produced. If Discovery, Picard Show and Section 31 show each get 16 episode orders, that's 48 episodes. We're nowhere near CSI or NCIS territory here.
 
On Section 31 as the premise - It's the only way she can be a "Special Agent" in Starfleet. The ties to Deep Space 9 will be non-existent.
Being Section 31 makes it a tie to DS9, their entire Prime backstory minus a couple lines in ENT come from that.
 
Section 31 is officially recognized by the producers as a division of the star fleet! I always knew that was, clearly operate within the fleet and the high command know of their activities.

There were always people who said that they were a group of paramilitaries without any relationship with the fleet! clearly people with secret bases and who worked for Admiral Marcus as we saw in into the darkness are a legitimate government agency (even if it is secret)
 
I am all for this turn of events. I loved Emperor Georgiou. I am excited to see what Section 31 brings to the table. The recent interviews given by Kurtzman have me believing that he truly cares about Star Trek and the messages it sends out during the times we are in today. I am sure we will see a antihero show that ends up with her slowly turning around to the ideals of the Federation.
When you live in a galaxy surrounded by civilizations that want to destroy you, having the CIA of space is not such a bad thing for the people who live in the federation.
 
Section 31 is officially recognized by the producers as a division of the star fleet! I always knew that was, clearly operate within the fleet and the high command know of their activities.
There is no evidence of that yet.

There were always people who said that they were a group of paramilitaries without any relationship with the fleet!
That’s what they were during DS9’s time period.

clearly people with secret bases and who worked for Admiral Marcus as we saw in into the darkness are a legitimate government agency (even if it is secret)
Different universe
 
There is no evidence of that yet.


That’s what they were during DS9’s time period.


Different universe
different universe? Yes, but they are only differentiated by something that happened a few years ago, those secret bases on earth and in Jupiter must have existed for a long time. Alex Kurtzman was a writer of into the darkness I would not be surprised if we see the base of Jupiter once again!
 
On Oversaturation - In 1993-1994 between TNG Season 7 and DS9 Season 2 there were 52 episodes of Star Trek produced. If Discovery, Picard Show and Section 31 show each get 16 episode orders, that's 48 episodes. We're nowhere near CSI or NCIS territory here.
You're forgetting the two animated shows we're getting too. :)
 
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I am not excited about this, though Michelle Yeoh is great. Writers Erika & Bo from Discovery will be the show runners. They are good writers, but I guess this means they are leaving Discovery.

Hopefully this is a mini-series.
 
Fuck this.
No, seriously, FUCK this!


-"Hey, I've got an idea for a show: We rescued Hitler from the bunker, and now he's our show's hero, doing cool spy stuff for our side and being all emotionally conflicted about the Holocaust and stuff!"
-"Sounds great! But let's also make him a Cannibal that ATE Jews!"
-"Yes! But also, he thinks Jews are a different race, so it's technically not 'cannibalism', he just liked to ate 'sentient beings'."
-"Now we're talking! Also, let's have a scene where he gloats one Jew in the face how much he enjoyed dining on their kind!".
-"He's still totes the hero of our show and on a sympathic redemption arc though."


Fuck. This.
 
Also, this is fucking sci-fi. They can do everything to bring back a dead character.

Yes, I would love a Star Trek show featuring Michelle Yeoh as the main character. And yes, they killed her character. But Jesus Christ. Have the main character be Georgious secret evil clone, or a timetravel version or something. DON'T MAKE SPACE HITLER YOUR MAIN CHARACTER. That really shouldn't need to be explained!
 
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