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Netflix greenlights new "Lost in Space"

Fair enough. But it still gets its word from the physically printed word on the outside of the craft.

But at what point does it do that?

This is the first plausible explanation for why "the machines didn't wipe off the plaque" that I've seen, really. They didn't clean it because although they apparently recognized the data files as information, they attached no significance at all to the plaque itself.

So, after absorbing huge amounts of visual data from Starfleet computers, much of which associated sounds with these visual patterns (hell, a couple of closed-caption movies would do it), V'Ger finally looked at images of the original probe and did the same with the patterns on the plaque. Which were still only partly legible. And then named itself "V'Ger," just moments before sending the Ilia probe over to Enterprise.
 
I didn't think the world in Netflix LIS was dystopian but it certainly wasn't the super happy world Earth is supposed to be in the later Star Trek shows. There are always problems and space exploration is trying to help them, I think if the world was truly dystiopian, like the 98 movie, there wouldn't have been so many different nationalities/ethnicities among the colonists.

I don't know but I got the feeling that this was a kind of "prequel" season, to get us to the single Robinson family + Smith truly "lost in space" at the end of the final episode. I liked the community setting of the first series but that "warp" at the end toward where the robot is from seemed like only they went through, not the rest. Anyway I hope there's more, it seems like most of my Netflix shows are cancelled or ending.
 
At least watch the first 7-8 episodes.

You know what? Probably I'll give it a chance. :)

By the way, I never understood why we didn't get here LIS, considering they broadcast every other Allen's show, from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea to Land of the Giants.
 
There might have been a dystopian back drop but I didn't feel it watching the series.

Seemed a lot like an extrapolation of where we are now. Just more cold, impersonal, soulless, and the haves being protected from the have-nots by virtue of a strong and very active global military force. I got a decidedly A.I. vibe from it, just without the androids.
 
You know what? Probably I'll give it a chance. :)

By the way, I never understood why we didn't get here LIS, considering they broadcast every other Allen's show, from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea to Land of the Giants.

We never got any of those series in Canada either I don't think -- at least never in reruns.
 
I didn't think the world in Netflix LIS was dystopian but it certainly wasn't the super happy world Earth is supposed to be in the later Star Trek shows. There are always problems and space exploration is trying to help them, I think if the world was truly dystiopian, like the 98 movie, there wouldn't have been so many different nationalities/ethnicities among the colonists.

I don't know but I got the feeling that this was a kind of "prequel" season, to get us to the single Robinson family + Smith truly "lost in space" at the end of the final episode. I liked the community setting of the first series but that "warp" at the end toward where the robot is from seemed like only they went through, not the rest. Anyway I hope there's more, it seems like most of my Netflix shows are cancelled or ending.

I thought that at first as well--that the second season would have the Robinsons on their own. It still might but I know that there were articles discussing the possible return of other characters for the second season as well. There is still the mystery as to whether or not the alien engines were stolen and used for some nefarious purpose or was the alien landing on earth foreshadowing an invasion. Is there actually a secret mission to attack the aliens, are people being sent as alien fodder, or was the crash landing just an accident and used by humans to further earth's technology?

As for being dystopian, isn't the entire reason people are abandoning earth because the earth has become too difficult to live in?
 
It's clear in this series Earthers are the bad guys. An alien ship crashes to Earth and the first thing they do is pillage it. That's not the work of nice people. As for the crew we don't know what happened if that ship had a crew.
 
It's clear in this series Earthers are the bad guys. An alien ship crashes to Earth and the first thing they do is pillage it. That's not the work of nice people. As for the crew we don't know what happened if that ship had a crew.

I don't think it is really clear at all. We can assume that, but it could just as easily have been the work of a desperate population trying to escape a dying planet. In that scenario, a starship crashes on earth piloted by robots and its our way out.

It is also possible that the ship contained instructions for the populations of planets it lands on to replicate its technology. In that scenario, it is also possible that everyone on the ship is unknowingly traveling to a trap of some sort.

There are many possibilities.
 
It's clear in this series Earthers are the bad guys. An alien ship crashes to Earth and the first thing they do is pillage it. That's not the work of nice people. As for the crew we don't know what happened if that ship had a crew.
:D The citizens of Macross City might not agree with your assessment, considering the massive Zentradi ship that crashed allowed the Earth's governments to end their ongoing wars and conflicts, and use the pillaged tech to reach the stars... ;)
 
It's clear in this series Earthers are the bad guys. An alien ship crashes to Earth and the first thing they do is pillage it. That's not the work of nice people. As for the crew we don't know what happened if that ship had a crew.

I wouldn't make that assumption. If advanced tech falls to Earth and there are no claimants or survivors should the people just bury it and pretend it isn't the discovery of the millennium? People would demand it be put to use for Humankind.
Now, if there were survivors and they were killed or the tech stolen from them, I could see you making that statement but nothing of the sort was mentioned.
 
I wouldn't make that assumption. If advanced tech falls to Earth and there are no claimants or survivors should the people just bury it and pretend it isn't the discovery of the millennium? People would demand it be put to use for Humankind.
Now, if there were survivors and they were killed or the tech stolen from them, I could see you making that statement but nothing of the sort was mentioned.

Fair points

But in this incarnation of LIS I think humans hands are dirty. The tech was stolen tech.
 
But in this incarnation of LIS I think humans hands are dirty. The tech was stolen tech.

It was salvaged tech. They had no way of identifying or contacting the rightful owners. Sure, the aliens saw it as theft, but considering that they just started murdering people instead of filing a proper legal grievance, I wouldn't be so quick to assume they have the moral high ground here.
 
There was a great article many years ago in Analog describing what World War I-era aeronautical engineers would encounter if they happened upon and tried to reverse engineer a 1950s fighter jet.

Bottom line: we could not "salvage" technology used by aliens to travel at FTL speeds. We would never understand most of it.
 
There was a great article many years ago in Analog describing what World War I-era aeronautical engineers would encounter if they happened upon and tried to reverse engineer a 1950s fighter jet.

Bottom line: we could not "salvage" technology used by aliens to travel at FTL speeds. We would never understand most of it.

That's a really good point, which means that it is possible the tech could have come with an instruction manual for less advanced races.
 
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