Same here...
... from yer post to Kurtzman's ears ...
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Richard Robau: President of the United Federation of Planets.
I TOTALLY called it.

Same here...
... from yer post to Kurtzman's ears ...
(wish I could LIKE yer comment about 100 times!)
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My bf didn’t know anything in detail about Trek, other than the usual hearsay. When I introduced him to Trek, we watched “In a Mirror, Darkly.” I told him that’s regular Trek.![]()
While it would be awesome, the chances of anything from the Kelvin movie series showing up in Disco are zero.
Paramount Pictures and CBS are not on the best of terms.Explain.
they're not going to give away movie characters on TV.
CBS owns the Kelvin Universe designs.Paramount Pictures and CBS are not on the best of terms.
I think, that was confirmed by a STO Dev.CBS owns the Kelvin Universe designs.
They can use them if they want to.
Yeah, and Paramount isn’t credited anywhere in the game’s fine print.I think, that was confirmed by a STO Dev.
They had to make the deal with CBS to use them in the game, not Paramount.
And until a few months ago, they were working on a film featuring George Kirk and presumably the USS Kelvin. So obviously they wouldn't want their moneymakers given away by someone else.Yeah, and Paramount isn’t credited anywhere in the game’s fine print.
Though CBS did tell them not to use any of the Beyond stuff at the time, they didn’t say why. Might have been because Beyond hadn’t been released yet.
How is that comparable?and the characters recast like Spock and Pike were.
It really wouldn’t.Plus, the USS Kelvin would stick out like the TOS Enterprise among the Discovery ships.
Common sense says if they recast 2 actors from Star Trek 2009, they'll recast 2 more.How is that comparable?
Nimoy and Hunter are dead, of course they’d have to be recast. And even if they weren’t, they’d be too old.
Quinto and Greenwood are probably too expensive
It really would. Seriously, just compare hull textures. The Kelvin has hull texture, and it has a matt finish and lots of detail, as does the USS Franklin. The Disco ships are (unrealistically) ultra smooth and glossy. The Kelvin has a saucer edge, whereas all Disco ships (with exceptions of Discovery herself and Enterprise) have sharp bladed saucer edges. The Kelvin has a circular hull and nacelle, which is exclusive to the Enterprise thus far in the Discovery's-unique-visuals-verse. It would stick out exactly the same as if they dropped the TOS-R Enterprise model into Discovery. If we ever saw the Kelvin in the Disco-visuals-verse, I imagine it would be 'bashed from Discoprise components.It really wouldn’t.
Lots of people feel that only William Shatner is Kirk and so on. These characters hold a special place in many people's hearts and recasting them is like saying Jesus was black.I really don't understand the arguments about recasting at all. I mean, TV and film evolved out of stage plays. No one expects that Othello or King Lear will always be played by the same person (which would require immortality anyway). Characters are written roles. Actors are people. They are two entirely different things. And part of the fun of recasting is seeing how actors put a new spin on the old characters.
Lots of people feel that only William Shatner is Kirk and so on. These characters hold a special place in many people's hearts and recasting them is like saying Jesus was black.
Yes the actors hold a special place in people's hearts but also I know some people who feel that William Shatner is the one true Kirk and so on with other characters.You mean the actors hold a special place in people's hearts right? Again, actor does not equal character.
Also, there's a difference between saying outright "Jesus was black" versus depicting Jesus as being black in a particular picture or film (which is what the analogy would be in this case). There's plenty of stylistic reasons why you might want to choose a black depiction of Jesus after all.
Yes the actors hold a special place in people's hearts but also I know some people who feel that William Shatner is the one true Kirk and so on with other characters.
I think we agree on the recasting being a big deal. It never mattered to me and, like you said, it can bring a new and fresh take on a character. In response to your not understanding the big deal with recasting, I was just saying that some people are against it because they can't accept change basically.I mean, I'm not saying you're lying, or they're lying. But people having this attitude toward Trek and other series - that it's some documentary-style depiction of an alternate world, rather than a fucking show - never ceases to amaze me.
If you only approach Trek with the attitude that what's shown on the screen matters - if you approach the show on just a canon perspective, and not writerly intent - you're missing a hell of a lot of the subtext. Literary and film allusions will pass right over your head, as will many of the socio-political themes. I mean why did Trek have "issues of the week?" Because it's a show, shows have episodes, and individual episodes can have their own themes.
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