Robert April's captaincy is not canon, though.
Question: Where is it explicitly said that Kirk took command immediately after Pike?
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Robert April's captaincy is not canon, though.
Yes it is.
Depends on if you see TAS as canon? If not, even though he is on a screen graphic in Discovery doesn't mean he actually commanded the Enterprise.
Why the need to complicate things? Why can't Pike just command the Enterprise?
TAS is canon according to CBS.
TAS has been such a frawn out "is it?/isn't it?" that some folks likely just don't count it because they haven't counted it for such a long time.
I don't see how this is complicating things.
Actually, TAS has been an official part of Trek canon since November of 2006, when CBS finally released it on DVD.
It was then added a few months later (June 2007), to their Official Star Trek site at which point even they declared it part of canon.
Not to mention the 10+ times all the Star Trek series used references at a later date that first appeared in The Animated Series.
Now, whether one want to include it in ones own head-canon, is an entirely different thing.
(I'm posting this with my phone at the moment, please pardon the multiple edits)
Ah, the point was to have a region of interest. Within that, Pike is the initial holder of the ship, and Kirk the eventual one. If there are COs before Pike or after Kirk, they are not the topic of the Kirk-Mendez discussion, because discussions always have a region of interest, and the one in this one is the connection between Pike and Kirk. And if there are COs between Pike and Kirk, they by the region of interest assumption become less relevant than the endpoints...
That is,
"Do you know one Christopher Pike?"
"That's the dude that once held the starship I'm flying, doh!"
rather than
"How did you get your starship?"
"I got it from one Christopher Pike who said he was relieved to be rid of it."
Timo Saloniemi
Why would Pike remain commander of Discovery, when he already has his own command?
Why would Pike and Spock remain regulars on the show after Season 2? What is the point? To placate those fans who wants the franchise to remain stuck in the past?
I don't think they'll stay passed Season 2 at all. My argument was aimed at Spock staying on for the rest of the season. And that's it. We have no idea how long the actual season will take place. They're not sticking to the former "one season equals one year" rule. It could take place over the span of weeks, months, or a year-and-a-half like S1, we don't know (I'm leaning towards it taking place over a much shorter span of time). Spock can serve with Pike anywhere for 11 years, on the Enterprise or not.
But I still think they're going back to the Enterprise at the end of the season. I think there'll be a new Captain of Discovery every season until it's Burnham.
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Not sure how it is complicated. It's an emergency situation and Pike takes command of the Discovery for the duration of the mission. No different when Picard was sent on the spy mission and Captain "By the Book" was in charge.
In that behind the scenes video, the display showing the Enterprise says all systems are offline. So perhaps the ship is badly damaged and required to go back for a refit/repair - and so the Discovery being nearby means Pike takes command of a captain-less vessel to continue his mission/his helping Spock.
Isn't/wans't/won't Pike (become) a Fleet Captain? Surely that allows him to command whatever he wants.
Probably for similar reasons like when Jellico took command of the Enterprise D even though Picard was still Captain.
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Unless Fleet Captain is what Kirk was, that is, a person who holds Captain rank in the Fleet (as opposed to a random civilian Captain). Kirk didn't get special privileges from wearing the braid we now see Pike wear as of 2257.
We have no indication of what Fleet Captain might mean if not the above. The only character ever addressed as such wore no rank braid and commanded nothing...
...But Pike here is seen taking command of the Discovery. Is that because he's Da Man; because he has Special Powers as the local S31 liaison officer; or because he has Special Powers inherent in anybody flying a Constitution in gold shirt? There's always the risk that we might actually learn the very thing soon enough.
Timo Saloniemi
It is now. DSC has made it so.
On a chart with the wrong Enterprise graphic and another wrong Enterprise's details that hopefully won't be seen in the final cut.
DSC already mentioned April anyway (in Saru's list of the top 5 Starfleet captains).
