Spoilers The Flash - Season 5

[Guy Gardener]

That's not how time travel works (here).

Current day Nora's memories will change to reflect changes she makes to the timeline as she makes those changes, even if basic causality doesn't make a lick of sense, like how Savatar temporarily turned into a cabbage, when present day Barry was temporarily turned into a cabbage.

Although, the "more" you time travel the more you become resistant to time editing your memories, even if it does take a few years of constant time dickery to build up that immunity to causality, like the Legends finally have.

 

[Kirk Prime]

Every time I see Chris Klein on screen, I think of him singing "Do You Believe in Magic," followed by "scooby dooby doo" from American Pie. No matter what he does, that's all I see.

What's really amazing is that Barry let Nora even spend time with the family. He of all people knows the dangers of time travel.

I can't believe they never addressed how Nora endangered her own conception.

I think it could be brilliant writing if the following happens.

We really like Nora.

This episode gave her the lesson of how sometimes you need to sacrifice yourself for others, even knowing what it could do to your family.

So let's deal with consequences.

Nora's time in the past, while creating a great relationship with her family, causes Barry and Iris to not conceive her. We learn this maybe in a special episode where Nora returns to the future and finds out that while Iris of course knows her, she was actually never born--maybe meeting some siblings she never had (twins perhaps?)

She is now a time remnant, no different than Thawne.

Knowing this--she goes to the past, but this time the year 2024.

She takes Barry's place in whatever the Crisis was.

 

[Finn]

The thing I always wondered about the night Barry's mother was killed. Where did the adult Barry go after removing younger Barry from the house? We later saw Thawne zoom out of the house after killing Nora in a flashback episode late in the first season, with no sign that he did something to the adult Flash.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Quick Review:

Good
- Nora and Barry. I especially liked Barry's line about being the Flash to save his family, not in spite of his family.
- Nice season 1 style speedster action.
- Backstory on Cicada. The flashbacks help us see Cicada's perspective and help us empathize him even if we don't agree with his actions.
- I did love Cisco line about "allowing" the name Weather Witch. Good use of humor.

Bad
- Sherloque. He is getting annoying and what was the point of having him be such a debbie downer on Thanksgiving. If it was an attempt at humor, it fell flat IMO.

 

[Kirk Prime]

Agreed about Sherloque--the bastardization of Thanksgiving was personified by Sherloque, Cisco and Caitlin. Fortunately, Killer Frost was the voice of reason.

 

[tomalak301]

Quick Review:

Good
- Nora and Barry. I especially liked Barry's line about being the Flash to save his family, not in spite of his family.
- Nice season 1 style speedster action.
- Backstory on Cicada. The flashbacks help us see Cicada's perspective and help us empathize him even if we don't agree with his actions.
- I did love Cisco line about "allowing" the name Weather Witch. Good use of humor.

Bad
- Sherloque. He is getting annoying and what was the point of having him be such a debbie downer on Thanksgiving. If it was an attempt at humor, it fell flat IMO.

I agree with pretty much all of this, especially Sherloque. Right now he's my least favorite Wells' character and I miss Harry. Heck, I even miss Harrison from the first season before we found out he was Reverse Flash.

 

[Tuskin38]

You know what, like Agent Liberty, I’m on his side now.

Please tell me you're joking.

 

[thribs]

Please tell me you're joking.

What, we’re not allowed to root for the baddie?

 

[Professor Zoom]

What, we’re not allowed to root for the baddie?

We should always be rooting for the baddie.

 

[CorporalClegg]

So this Joss person literally rides the lightning?

Speaking of Joss, Willow did it better. Sorry, Cisco.

 

[Tuskin38]

Ralph was missing the entire last episode.

 

[UssGlenn]

The thing I always wondered about the night Barry's mother was killed. Where did the adult Barry go after removing younger Barry from the house? We later saw Thawne zoom out of the house after killing Nora in a flashback episode late in the first season, with no sign that he did something to the adult Flash.

Theoretically he could have been erased from existence, since most of his personal history changed. But he should have become a time remnant.

Ralph was missing the entire last episode.

He was visiting his mom for Thanksgiving. Not joking, one of the actors tweeted that when asked.

 

[SAndrews10]

Yeah it was fun Joe & Cecile got a line about them being away but not Ralph. He particularly would've come in handy instead of using that hologram

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, I was expecting the fake Weather Wizard to be Ralph. I bet they wrote it that way but had to change it when Sawyer turned out to be unavailable that week, or something.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I wonder if Joe and Cecille's visit to her mom will last several episodes to cover Jesse L. Martin's recovery from his back injury.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Next week is the 100th, right? I'd be surprised if he doesn't appear.

Then the Xover and then the break (I think.), which will hopefully give him time to heal up. But if he's not 100%, I'd rather they keep him out for as long as possible.

JLM is a national treasure.

 

[Christopher]

I wonder if Joe and Cecille's visit to her mom will last several episodes to cover Jesse L. Martin's recovery from his back injury.

Martin's already skipped the last 2-3 episodes; Joe has just been conveniently out of the house whenever anyone came to visit. Besides, they seem to be using Cecille to fill in for Joe's role in the storyline.

 

[thribs]

I didn’t even notice Ralph wasn’t in it. Shows you how important he is.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The thing I always wondered about the night Barry's mother was killed. Where did the adult Barry go after removing younger Barry from the house? We later saw Thawne zoom out of the house after killing Nora in a flashback episode late in the first season, with no sign that he did something to the adult Flash.

There were several older Barries.

We saw at least one of them fade out when he suggests with a glance that younger adult Barry not save his mother.

Half a season later, a slightly older Barry goes back and saves Nora anyways.

 

[CorporalClegg]

You father smelt of elder Barries.