Considering they repair DNA damage from radiation by...firing antimatter into your cells, I don't think I want to know what they do.
Disco's version of TOS/TAS: Differences
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Considering they repair DNA damage from radiation by...firing antimatter into your cells, I don't think I want to know what they do.
I'll concede that it gave said canon explanation that there was a change. Except by attempting to explain it, they made things worse.
So, not only does Bashir, who is one of Starfleet's most up-and-coming doctors (who also knows a thing or two about genetic engineering himself), not know the origin of the Augment virus, but Worf doesn't want to talk about it even though both Bashir and O'Brien correctly guess the reason for it. Never mind that the Augment virus was known to Phlox and presumably Starfleet medical, and obviously Starfleet command, since it would be pretty damn important that their officers know that an alien enemy of Earth now looks like humans.
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Correct and Starfleet probably WAS aware of the fact that their enemy looked like them, but how would they know if someone WAS a Klingon unless every single person in Starfleet was examined in the same way that Darvin was? There isn't much they can do about this. And not for nothing, but, that would mean that this logic applies to a fair amount of the aliens we saw in TOS already, since most resembled humans as it was.
Again, like so many continuity sticklers around here do, you are assuming that the characters should have the exact same level of knowledge of past events as we, the viewers, do. You're talking about an event that took close to two centuries before Bashir was even born. Bashir, himself, knowing, as you put it, a thing or two about genetic engineering, doesn't necessarily mean that he is a subject matter expert on the topic or the Klingons. We've seen throughout Star Trek that Starfleet doctors can lack the medical knowledge of other species.
A good amount of a doctor's time is spent researching. If he had a reason to research the augment virus before their mission to the Enterprise, then he could have easily done so assuming the events we saw in Enterprise are in Starfleet's historical database; but that wasn't why they went to the past. They went there strictly to stop Kirk from being assassinated and you saw how surprised both Sisko and Dax were when Koloth's ship arrived, so they clearly didn't expect there to be Klingons about.
It's utterly ridiculous that you would expect a character to basically recite the event from nearly two centuries earlier completely off the top of his head beat by beat.
Disco is not about the battle of Donatu V, it simply made another reference to it. It having apparently happened during the hundred years there was no contact between the Federation and the Klingons along with the attack on the colony Michael lived with her parents.
I said might have been.
It may have been scrapped when they changed creative direction.
And no contact doesn't me no conflict. They may have just meant no official communication between the governments, or no transmissions were sent during those incidents.
I don't have to be a 'continuity stickler' to point out obvious flaws in logic. There's no way Bashir would not have known about the Augment virus, much less anyone else. Just because it happened 200 years ago means nothing. The relevant info would have been in the Federation/Starfleet historical/medical database.
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Which should have piqued his interest because it is both a medical matter, and it involves genetic engineering.
My definition of "no contact" is "I haven't heard a peep out of them." By that logic, engaging in space battles even without communication, is contact.
And as I said, it probably was. There'd be no relevant reason to know that information right off the top of his head just because he happened to be faced with some human-looking Klingons in addition to him being genetically-modified. It makes more sense for it to pique his interest after his encounter with the Klingons because Worf is so ambiguous about it. Thus, he wants to know more.
You think that Klingon physiology and Augment history was something that Bashir had no knowledge of whatsoever before that point?
Before the DS9 joke it ws never mentioned, it did not exist until the ENT retcon. It really changes the whole setting history as no one knew about it. Even the joke from Ds9 does not work after the retcon as the Chief should know base history
As an episode it shows Bashir's and O'Brien's lack of familiarity with Starfleet history, i.e. not recognizing the uniform design, rank braids, or Klingon history. O'Brien even mistakes someone else for Kirk.
Well, it was a homage and a big joke, but trek fans could not enjoy it for what it was
The novel made it more understandable
Well that isn’t what the show implies.
I’ll take the on screen evidence over your definition
I enjoyed T&T immensely. It was the ENT Augment episodes that I thought were dumb.
I didn't say that that was what the show implied.
T&T was not my thing, but it was a funny homage episode many fans could not take as it was intended. I really am hoping DSC retcons out the stupid ENT argument retcon
Didn't they already do that?
Voq had to be surgically altered into Tyler. If they had the Augment virus, they could have just turned him into a human that way.
This is my argument for them retconing the silly out. However there is another explication
Nothing says they have to look human, clearly they do not based off Ash. But they could have less ridges, not looking human, but smoother and less Klingon. This would also explain why no hair became such a big trend, you showed your Ridges to show you are an untainted Klingon.
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