Spoilers Demons of the Punjab grade and discussion thread
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I think Who gets away with it more due to not really being set anywhen while Trek did sometimes suffer due to being set in the twenty whatever century and doing an episode set in our past. It felt like this isn't what we signed up for. Not that I'm complaining outright as I did enjoy some of them. I recall little green men being a decent giggle. Though I could be wrong.
Plus getting back on subject I think it helps make the space ships and advanced civilisations feel a little more unique. Other wise they could end up running together sortof.
I'm not sure if I like the earth based stuff more or the space stuff more. I just know I like the Doctor being zanny and funny and even kind of a snob or someone that is hard to relate to because they are a alien and more complex than us humans. The Doctor has way more experience and is way smarter than humans. That would naturally make anyone seem kind of alien to a regular human being. Whitaker has shown this at times when been allowed to. I want to see more of it from her. My favorite stuff with her is still from the season opener. I mean she felt very active in that episode doing all sorts of things and things that are even hard to understand what she is doing. I want them to try and recapture that feeling with her.
Jason
Jason
I agree that she felt the most Doctor~ish in the opener.
I've realised what this series reminds me of and this may not sit well with some people. Remember that episode where the moon was an egg and covered in spiders. The one that felt like it was a pitched, original radio drama in the vein of the twilight zone or outer limits but got reworked into a Doctor Who episode. That's sort of what this series feels like. Though much better. It feels like the Doctor is kind of our tour guide or lift to all these places and stories rather than the star of all these stories. The spiders in the hotel was a sub par Torchwood script and the rest while more who seem to focus on the companions or ordinary people in these trying and unusual situations. Would the episode aboard the space ship have been worse by scrapping the Doctor and companions and replacing them with some more patients and letting the female doctor take control with help from the major and her brother and others?
I could have easily enjoyed another year of RTD on DW, to be quite honest.
390 million people lived in India before the partition.
A million dead is a bruised bottom.
A million dead is a bruised bottom.
That's a million people who knew millions of others, it's families changed for ever, entire families gone. You talk like they weren't people.
Sometimes, there can be a little too much Guy, though Stalin would likely feel the same.
Or pop back to the last series with the spacesuits where the company charge you for oxygen.
I have a friend who's father's parents were Hindu, and then disowned him and cast him out of the family for marrying a Christian.
I know some people complain about the lack of a villain in the episode, but the villain is in plain sight. It's hatred without reason causing people to tear their own families apart and causing suffering for generations to come..
I know some people complain about the lack of a villain in the episode, but the villain is in plain sight. It's hatred without reason causing people to tear their own families apart and causing suffering for generations to come..
And if your family was part of the million, do you think you could find a way to sound less callous about it then? Not that it should require a personal connection to prevent you from being dismissive of the death of a million people.
Given today’s political climate and leaders of the world saying their are “fine people on both sides” when one side are literally made up of Nazis, it seems history has been forgotten.
And Doctor Who has always been “virtue signaling.” (Ugh, what an Orwellian turn of phrase. I need to wash out my mouth)
Those million people were people, not a fucking punchline. You should be ashamed for that post.
India and Pakistan still live in the shadow of the partisan. Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India are still harassed and looked down upon.
^^^ I don’t mind it in my entertainment which is probably why I enjoyed ‘The Highlander’ series so much.
Oh actually I used to love that show. I forgot all about it.
Duncan certainly often got preachy and took the high moral ground in many episodes.
Why can’t it be both? Why can’t it be both entertaining and offer something more thoughtful?
Do you really think there’s some moral legitimacy to racism and bigotry?
Maybe bigots SHOULD be lectured to.
Isn't one of the big attractions of sci-fi supposed to be that it can speak to us about the human condition and bigger meaning than the escapism it appears to be?
Well if one of you main characters is racist or bigot you got to find something legit about it in order to give them some depth that goes beyond cartoon levels of complexity. The question should always be. How do I make this compelling from a dramatic point-of- view.
Granted with "Who" this is a show that really doesn't go the complex level of exploring issues. I have noticed it's more about finding a creative way to lecture in away that feels unique usually through a methphor that makes you think about a issue in a new way. Which means the Doctor needs to be connected to the story. Maybe the aliens should have been a real threat instead of red herring. Put some sci-fi into the story. Have Yaz fade away because the future is altered and the Doctor has to get involved to restore the future.
Jason