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50th Anniversary Rewatch Thread

What issue was this, Old? I have a large collection of FF mags in the cupboard but it's years since I've read them!
JB
 
Story-wise, it makes more sense if the original inhabitants of the multi-generation ship knew they were on a ship and the purpose of its mission -- but at some point there was a mutiny or political upheaval and that knowledge was lost. That was the premise of Robert Heinlein's classic novella "Universe," which I believe was the first use of the generation ship concept.

Maybe the people who conceived the plan suspected that the people on the ship were so stupid that if left to their own devices they would have ruined everything and caused the generational ship irreparable damage... kinda like what we're doing to OUR generational ship, IE Earth...

In the first draft script dated August 2,1968, Spock attempts to address this. In Act III, after Kirk and Spock beam back to the Enterprise and leave McCoy on Yonada, Spock says this to Kirk on the bridge:

SPOCK
The asteroid ship is fully automated. The people had all memory of being
on a space ship removed from their minds to make such a long trip possible...
to keep them from going mad... fighting among themselves.


And then later in Act III, when Natira asks Kirk in the Oracle room why the creators (called the builders in the first draft) would keep the people in darkness, Spock responds with:

SPOCK
Because no people could have stood the strain of knowing. In a trip of ten
thousand years or more, the generations would have gone mad... fought,
killed, bred too rapidly... destroyed themselves.
 
A pity, the episode could easily have ditched a beat or two of either of McCoy's subplots to squeeze in those helpful lines.
 
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Presumably people who built the ship got on the ship, and then why wouldn't they have taught some in the next generation how to run, or at least fix the ship. :shrug:
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The persons who built the ship were engineers, not politicians. They could have feared that some of those politicians on board could have convinced the people to waste the resources of the ship regardless of reason and logic... just as politicians like Trump do with the people that elected them. It's not that far fetched.
 
Interestingly this is one of the only episodes referenced in Gene Roddnberry's only Star Trek novel. The Enterprise refit's new sick bay is full of Yolandan tech and the medallion McCoy is wearing when he beams on board is noted as being Yolandan.
 
Good episode. Nice for McCoy to get some attention. Early in the episode when Kirk tells McCoy that they do not need him as part of the landing party but McCoy insists that he can do it, I wonder what Spock must have been thinking? Something must have been up? Also, you can see the friendship between Spock and McCoy when Spock first learns of McCoy's weakened condition. They are friends but do not want anybody to know it, even themselves. Their relationship is one of my favorite dynamics of the series.
 
McCoy even stands up for Spock against Mr.Boma in The Galileo 7 episode while they're stranded on Taurus II although he gets the odd quip in himself as well! :vulcan:
JB
 
and the medallion McCoy is wearing when he beams on board is noted as being Yolandan.

The Great Bird sure had a thing for flogging medallions... ;)

Does it also mention that Yonadans have just discovered Disco music when explaining McCoy's outfit? :D
 
McCoy even stands up for Spock against Mr.Boma in The Galileo 7 episode while they're stranded on Taurus II although he gets the odd quip in himself as well! :vulcan:
JB
Hmm I thought McCoy was pretty horrible to Spock in Galileo 7.
I wouldn't have thought them friends from that episode.
 
It's hard to tell how two people feel about each other in a series. Sometimes there isn't much continuity in the writing in that area.
 
Since you're talking about Galileo Seven, 'tis appropriate that tomorrow's episode also features Spock in command. :D
 
"The Tholian Web", Episode 64, November 15th

Tonight's Episode: "Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!"
You haven't experienced Walter Scott until you've read him in original Tholian.
 
Since you're talking about Galileo Seven, 'tis appropriate that tomorrow's episode also features Spock in command. :D
He's gotten a LITTLE better at it.

It's funny, the only time Spock isn't shown as hyper-competent is when the central plot of the story is "SPOCK IS IN COMMAND". THEN everybody worries about him.
 
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