Discovery Spin-Off Series in the Works?

[Attentiveluke]

What you've got there is called "speculation" and with out any provable facts, it's nothing more.
It's interesting and relevant for your particular bevy of friends, but hardly definitive for the Trek Fandom as a whole, nor for the actual numbers of viewers CBS is getting on All Access.

Unless we ask every adult on earth whether they would pay for CBS all access for star trek, i cant give a 100% accurate answer and neither can you. Each country has a "silent majority" that decides all things, who never make their opinions known in public. It is weird that we dont have actual numbers of viewers for CBS All Access, why is that?

 

[F. King Daniel]

This board is full of star trek fans who come out their way to post about a show. Hardly a typical cross section of society. Out of my friends who are trekkies, less than half would watch it. That doesnt mean they would pay for it (they watched S1 on netflx). Now thats 8 people who are trekkies out of all the people i know, most of whom never watch star trek, maybe 1 or 2 out of 50 people would pay to watch it. Is that good?

CBS will have crunched the numbers on this because it's all about making money. Them announcing 5 new series' and their plans to make All-Access the year-round Trek channel says it all.

My opinion is that it'll end like Netflix's Marvel shows, burning itself out in a few years of overexposure. But for right now, TV Trek is riding high.

 

[Rahul]

Jesus Christ.
I really fucking love Michelle Yeoh, and would like her to continue to star in Star Trek. But her Emperor Georgiou character on DIS is kind of horribly cartoonish, and I don't even want to see it return on DIS.

I'm all for reformed villains in starring roles and all. But Emperor Georgiou is a fucking genocidal, cannibalistic, fascist supressor. That's a bit too far.

That's like making a James Bond-like series starring Hitler as the main character. I mean... why?

 

[DaveyNY]

Okay i will and it wont cost me a penny. Enjoy paying for mediocrity....

It's only "mediocrity" if one happens too agree with your POV.
And everybody has different perspectives as to what and how much they are willing to pay for, so making condescending remarks like that is just silly.
You don't WIN by going off in a huff, you mostly just give off an air of selfishness which endears you to no one.
But, I guess it's time to move on.

 

[Cyrus]

I think this is OK as a limited series (same with Khan), but not a good idea for an ongoing series. But I prefer if she just stays as a recurring Discovery character.

 

[Attentiveluke]

It's only "mediocrity" if one happens too agree with your POV.
And everybody has different perspectives as to what and how much they are willing to pay for, so making condescending remarks like that is just silly.
You don't WIN by going off in a huff, you mostly just give off an air of selfishness which endears you to no one.
But, I guess it's time to move on.

If refusing to pay for something i was mis-sold and dont like is selfishness, then so be it...

 

[Rahul]

CBS will have crunched the numbers on this because it's all about making money. Them announcing 5 new series' and their plans to make All-Access the year-round Trek channel says it all.

My opinion is that it'll end like Netflix's Marvel shows, burning itself out in a few years of overexposure. But for right now, TV Trek is riding high.

Oh, CBS has crunched the numbers, and noticed they have literally nothing else to offer besides Trek. But they want to built up an entire original streaming service. And so far, the Trekkies are the only people that have subscribed in somewhat larger numbers (even though they are clearly going to miss their 8mio. subscribers goal, by a wide margin). They are their only real audience at the moment.

If they don't want All Access to die in the next months, they have to cater Trek fans. It's their only chance.
And even then, it might be that even now they are running on deficit and this is their last hail mary. OR the numbers of subscribers is entirely enough to pay for everything (though still lower as even ENT in it's final season - but paying directly, not through advertisement). Thing is: Because they are not releasing viewer numbers, we really don't know, and every guess is as good as every other one, even the really outlandish ones.

But even then, it's kind of fascinating to see them trying to sell a whole paying channel entirely only on one IP. We will see how that works out...

 

[DaveyNY]

If refusing to pay for something i was mis-sold and dont like is selfishness, then so be it...

Yeah..., you completely missed the point I was making.
But any further discussion would just lead farther down that rabbit hole.
Be well fellow Trekkie.

 

[Attentiveluke]

If CBS or another company were making another star trek series that was more my taste then i would be happy for CBS to continue with this DISCOverse dross but since this is the only thing that is "Star trek" being made, im unhappy. The Kelvinverse movies and DISCO arent trek to me, they might be to you and some others, but ill need the picard series to be excellent for me to have a road to damascus moment. The cartoon makes me think it will be an animated danni pudi's powerless and although i like both the mirror universe and Section 31, i dont like the mirror empress....

 

[Groppler Zorn]

A section 31 spinoff is what we’ve all been waiting for all these years. It’s bound to be a massive hit. Can’t wait

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Why make a spin off of a rubbish, unpopular show? following a stupid, one dimensional character? expanding a universe that isnt prime that turns so many people off?. It proves people here will buy anything that claims to be star trek irregardless of quality, just stick "Star Trek" in the name...

Your idea of popular and my idea are quite different. This echo chamber forum is no indication of what the general population think of the show. CBS all access are disappointed with the show, Netflix dont want it and only desperate trekkies are sticking with it, deluding themselves that its worth their time and money....

Insulting fans of the show. Infraction for trolling. Comments to PM.

 

[Tomalak]

I'm all for reformed villains in starring roles and all. But Emperor Georgiou is a fucking genocidal, cannibalistic, fascist supressor. That's a bit too far.

Except for 'cannibalistic', that sums up fan-favourite Gul Dukat. I'd be surprised if a Georgiou show would uncritically follow her as she murders and munches her way through the Alpha Quadrant. I thought the last few episodes showed a more interesting character than she appeared to be in her own gold-plated Trump Tower of a spaceship.

And to be fair, she's not technically a cannibal, she just eats sentient alien life forms.

 

[Cyrus]

I loved the section 31 concept and have supported its use in various Trek series. But I rather not see a Section 31 series. It's enough to see it once in a while in some Discovery or Picard episodes, but not a series of its own.

 

[dahj]

If I were doing the show, I'd basically make it "Xena in space!"

Have her be on a quest for redemption, pair her up with a young idealistic Starfleet officer, throw in a comic relief sidekick, and have her not work for Section 31, but instead work to bring it down from the inside and protect the Federation from betraying its ideals whenever going gets tough.

I think that could totally work.

 

[BillJ]

So we're doing a show about someone as bad as Hitler, if he escaped his crimes after World War II?

Classy.

"There are good people on both sides..."

 

[captainkirk]

Except for 'cannibalistic', that sums up fan-favourite Gul Dukat. I'd be surprised if a Georgiou show would uncritically follow her as she murders and munches her way through the Alpha Quadrant. I thought the last few episodes showed a more interesting character than she appeared to be in her own gold-plated Trump Tower of a spaceship.

And to be fair, she's not technically a cannibal, she just eats sentient alien life forms.

But we never had a show starring Dukat. He was the villain of DS9. A character like Mirror-Georgiou has done so many incredibly evil things that she's kind of beyond redemption. A section 31 series can work if your hero is someone who has good intentions but has to fight not become as corrupt as the rest of Section 31. But Georgiou is far worse than 31 so if anything she will corrupt them further instead.

 

[Red Panda]

Oh, CBS has crunched the numbers, and noticed they have literally nothing else to offer besides Trek.

That would be good shade if they didn't have other shows on CBS All Access that are clearly popular, including The Good Fight, or plans for 10+ new series in 2019.

Star Trek is outsourced to Secret Hideout to manage, bankrolled by CBS with its own dedicated studios in Toronto. It's capable of having 52 episodes of TV every year. That's why it's going for it.

 

[BillJ]

It's capable of having 52 episodes of TV every week.

Year?

 

[dinzy]

But we never had a show starring Dukat. He was the villain of DS9. A character like Mirror-Georgiou has done so many incredibly evil things that she's kind of beyond redemption. A section 31 series can work if your hero is someone who has good intentions but has to fight not become as corrupt as the rest of Section 31. But Georgiou is far worse than 31 so if anything she will corrupt them further instead.

That could make it more interesting. Also being bad in the mirror universe is basically a requirement of survival. The whole universe is, as others have said, cartoonish in how evil it is. Taking that requirement away could lead to anything. I'd be fine watching an evil person do questionable things for a good cause. I hope this goes to series.

 

[Red Panda]

Year?

Lol yeah! Fixed my post. But yes, I think they want 52 episodes of Star Trek a year by 2020. If Netflix has expanded their deal, seems like they want that too.