Noticed at one point in the trailer that Sara Mitich is seen out of her Ariam makeup in a scene with Ariam.
https://imgur.com/a/HLB4eRe (behind Tilly)
https://imgur.com/a/HLB4eRe (behind Tilly)
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Hmmm...cameo or other??
The similarities between Rebecca and Majel as number one are terrifying.
Exactly. To me, from the expressions, this is why I say she looks like she's acting like the character. In the top picture she looks like she's taking in information before she's about to make an observation.
Which, for anyone who remembers "The Cage" will know, is exactly what Number One was like.
And even the smaller things right down to the eye color, the eyebrows and eyelashes. The attention to detail is staggering.
Hopefully, she'll be given an in-canon name this season, too.
Looking forward to a Pike series alongside the Picard series... 
Thats kind of cool.
I know this is a soft reboot... but.. D-7! SQUEEEEEE!!!!!
But it isn't?
Yep, they're definitely both brunettes who wear their hair long. What are the odds?
I think it was said she's wearing a wig.
The peace-hair concept is nonsense, of course, given the Klingon kids seen in flashbacks, mirror Voq, et cetera.
I see someone else noticed the de-Botoxing of the lips in a reply to Ricky Spanish, but I haven't seen anyone notice that the image of (who's said to be) L'Rell actually has different ridgework along with softer features overall. Note the area between the eyes and just up, where a V replaces the old shape.
With these changes, the Disco Klingons are going from elongated-skulled hairless half-blind fat-ridged quadri-nostrilled botox-lipped over-toothed jagged-and-gnarly-necked ridge-shouldered beclawed scaly-gnarled-cleavaged double-wanged quasi-race-caricatures that come in various shades of "bruise" to a somewhat smaller set of those traits.
(Unlike T'Kuvma, L'Rell was never half-blinded by brow overhang, but it looks like they're shrinking the forehead along with the lips anyway. Her cheekbones are still built up some and her neck is still hideously gnarly but overall she is now a good couple of steps closer to the proper Klingon look, albeit with many more to go. (Of course, it's a shame Chieffo is hidden at all, but still.))
Now, some are complaining that STD infidels like me just can't be satisfied, often as part of the larger campaigns (e.g. on Twitter) to question our fandom or human worth altogether for not believing CBS hung the moon with this show. That they are changing STD stuff… adding in the classic Klingon ship design, 'painting over' the Discovery uniforms in yellow, and toning down the Klingon make-up… is supposed to allay our concerns at the same time as they show a very different and upscaled Discoprise.
The thing is, that sort of thing only makes it worse. Changing Discovery *now* only reboots the reboot, as it were, via extensive retconning. Like the original weaponized-canon-policy marketing claim that Discovery was supposed to be Prime, the changes reek of dishonesty as surely as a suspect changing their story under interrogation. All it appears to be is an attempt to muddy the waters by abandoning the previous artistic integrity.
They should've kept on keeping on and just acknowledged the reboot. It would've been the better choice to end the fandom conflicts the nonsensical Prime claim caused, because then everyone could've enjoyed the show on its own merits.
Or, to paraphrase a certain captain, "if we can have honesty, it's easier to overlook mistakes."
I see someone else noticed the de-Botoxing of the lips in a reply to Ricky Spanish, but I haven't seen anyone notice that the image of (who's said to be) L'Rell actually has different ridgework along with softer features overall. Note the area between the eyes and just up, where a V replaces the old shape.
With these changes, the Disco Klingons are going from elongated-skulled hairless half-blind fat-ridged quadri-nostrilled botox-lipped over-toothed jagged-and-gnarly-necked ridge-shouldered beclawed scaly-gnarled-cleavaged double-wanged quasi-race-caricatures that come in various shades of "bruise" to a somewhat smaller set of those traits.
(Unlike T'Kuvma, L'Rell was never half-blinded by brow overhang, but it looks like they're shrinking the forehead along with the lips anyway. Her cheekbones are still built up some and her neck is still hideously gnarly but overall she is now a good couple of steps closer to the proper Klingon look, albeit with many more to go. (Of course, it's a shame Chieffo is hidden at all, but still.))
Now, some are complaining that STD infidels like me just can't be satisfied, often as part of the larger campaigns (e.g. on Twitter) to question our fandom or human worth altogether for not believing CBS hung the moon with this show. That they are changing STD stuff… adding in the classic Klingon ship design, 'painting over' the Discovery uniforms in yellow, and toning down the Klingon make-up… is supposed to allay our concerns at the same time as they show a very different and upscaled Discoprise.
The thing is, that sort of thing only makes it worse. Changing Discovery *now* only reboots the reboot, as it were, via extensive retconning. Like the original weaponized-canon-policy marketing claim that Discovery was supposed to be Prime, the changes reek of dishonesty as surely as a suspect changing their story under interrogation. All it appears to be is an attempt to muddy the waters by abandoning the previous artistic integrity.
They should've kept on keeping on and just acknowledged the reboot. It would've been the better choice to end the fandom conflicts the nonsensical Prime claim caused, because then everyone could've enjoyed the show on its own merits.
Or, to paraphrase a certain captain, "if we can have honesty, it's easier to overlook mistakes."
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Indeed. They changed it too much. Should have stayed closer to the original.
That's fine. D7 on Ent was a stupid fuck up, and even the producers admitted it. I'd consider it to be a similar mistake than having modern(er) tanks to be used as substitutes in a WWII film.
Her scar also appears to be gone, but it might be the angle.
Except they're not rebooting it.
If they were they would have completely changed the makeup. Not this like 10% change.
They're also still keeping the Klingon uniform and weapons designs from Season 1 among other carry overs.
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I don't understand this thinking, since ENT Klingons also used a Bird of Prey which, aside from shorter wings and a rear-firing turret, was the same as the one used in every other Trek.
So you mean it wasn't the same? Yes, it was similar, but different, thus a plausible predecessor.
A plausible contemporary not predecessor (the Bird of Prey losing it's turret is a big downgrade, if anything), as all the ENT Klingon ships were, inside and out.
Oh, it's more than that. But in any case, I suspect their goal is to transition even further over time. By design or accident they had already softened her look a bit since the pilot. Note the different secondary nostril sweep angle, cheek prominence, and Botox-lip scowl.
We'll see.
The changes to the make up just seem like normal refinement over time.
The same scene with L'Rell, the Klingon with white hair is wearing the same outfit Kol did in Season 1, some of the Klingons in the scene appear to be holding the same Mek'leths from Season 1.
You can see those designs in the trailer.
The same scene with L'Rell, the Klingon with white hair is wearing the same outfit Kol did in Season 1, some of the Klingons in the scene appear to be holding the same Mek'leths from Season 1.
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