I would agree 'strange new worlds' aspect is the at the heart of the mystique, but 'the commentary' is self-indulgent, self-aggrandizing pretense.
Spoilers Season 2 Trailer
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Since none of the Berman Trek series really significantly tied to TOS, and there were a combined 25 seasons of those shows, I'd say DSC actually IS doing something different by dealing directly with TOS backstory.
One of the reasons it's unique and that I like it.
Are you talking about my reaction or what star trek is. Over time I've seen people just focus on the social commentary aspects of Star trek (the whole Las Vegas convention is built around it) and I've felt that the wonder and imagination has been missing from that conversation. I applaude this trailer for bringing back some of that sci fi mystery and that's why I said Trek is more than just the social commentary.
The first trailer emphasized the fun and action a bit. Now the second trailer is more about the story and characters.
Put them together and you have a better idea of the overall tone probably.
Yeah? Like a whole show based on Captain Picard...oh, wait, that's not really 'new' either is it?
I am feeling excited for this new season.
I loved this, and the Klingons with hair proved that they look like TNG klingons with hair. Even though folks want to dishonestly say they don't/
Unfortunately your fellow detractors are clamoring for things to be as much like the Trek they're familiar with as possible. You might want to talk to them at the monthly meeting :P
My reactions to the trailer:
The one thing I take away from this trailer: THIS. IS. Star Trek. As in: OUR Star Trek. The traditional one. The "prime" one. Not that semi-reboot/retcon confusion that was season 1. They seem to keep carrying on with all their main characters and plotlines, but bring the rest of the universe back to align with the original Star Trek universe again.
And I couldn't be more happy about it! I'm going to watch the shit out of it. Even if it's only mediocre to bad Star Trek. This one finally actually REALLY looks like Star Trek again! S1 was a clusterfuck with all those behind-the-scenes troubles. But they seem to have learned! Like actually improved their stuff. Taken notes. And into consideration about what the fans care. Kept what worked. And changed back what didn't.
Now do they still have to do a shit-ton of fine-tuning to make the series really good? Probably. We will see when the first episodes air. But do I give them the benefit of doubt? At this point: Absolutely. They really try to bring "Star Trek" back. And so far, it looks like they are actually doing it!
- Red angels
Oh no. They gonna' f--- this up. They gonna' rehash Babylon 5's Vorlons..
- MU Georgiou and Section 31
Ugh. That's clunky as hell. LOVE Michelle Yeoh - but the less I'm ever reminded about everything Mirror Universe from S1, the better. Also, everyone since DS9 completely misunderstands S31, but whatever....
- Cpt. Pike
Okay - I can see him work. He seems to be a genuine good guy, and bringing the whole Star Trek spirit and humanistic attitude back....
- Bearded Spock
Weird, but whatever. Probably makes sense if he was stranded somewhere, or if he's in a hipster phase of his life. Always hated the forced Spock-sibling connection of Burnham since season 1 - felt like bad fan-fic. Still does. But seems to be at least somewhat decent cast and acted, even if the appereance of "original" Spock nowadays suddenly is in no way remarkable or anything special anymore
- classic kingon D7 starship
Ha! I KNEW it! I predicted in every thread they would backtrack on that from season 2 onward, and go back to something closer to the classic design. Positively surprised they are THIS faithfull though.
- Bearded, longhaired klingon
MOTHERFUCKER! They did it! They fucking DID IT! They retconned their stupid mullrat klingons to only have been shaved! FUCKING YES!!!!!! Do they still look somewhat weird, with too much make-up and weird hands? Yeah... But are they believable as "our" klingons? Abso-fucking-lutely! I love it! I really, really love it! Takes away one of my biggest grievances about the first season!
Overall, do I think this season will be amazing? Hell nah. It looks clunky as hell, like any other first or second season from any other Trek spin-off series as well. Also, very indulging in fanwank. But Enterprise season 4 did so as well, and that was pretty good. So this alone doesn't mean anything.
The one thing I take away from this trailer: THIS. IS. Star Trek. As in: OUR Star Trek. The traditional one. The "prime" one. Not that semi-reboot/retcon confusion that was season 1. They seem to keep carrying on with all their main characters and plotlines, but bring the rest of the universe back to align with the original Star Trek universe again.
And I couldn't be more happy about it! I'm going to watch the shit out of it. Even if it's only mediocre to bad Star Trek. This one finally actually REALLY looks like Star Trek again! S1 was a clusterfuck with all those behind-the-scenes troubles. But they seem to have learned! Like actually improved their stuff. Taken notes. And into consideration about what the fans care. Kept what worked. And changed back what didn't.
Now do they still have to do a shit-ton of fine-tuning to make the series really good? Probably. We will see when the first episodes air. But do I give them the benefit of doubt? At this point: Absolutely. They really try to bring "Star Trek" back. And so far, it looks like they are actually doing it!
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That's okay, JMS stole the Númenórea...err, the Vorlons from JRR Tolkien's Lod of the Rings anyway.
I'm loving everything I'm seeing about season 2 except the Enterprise design.
One prediction:
That weird machine Stamets points at tilly results in some ball of...something...being pulled out of her.
That's Culber. Green spore Culber settled down on her. At some point during the season, either he starts manifesting in Tilly or somehow Stamets gets the idea to "pull it out." And it grows into Culber.
That weird machine Stamets points at tilly results in some ball of...something...being pulled out of her.
That's Culber. Green spore Culber settled down on her. At some point during the season, either he starts manifesting in Tilly or somehow Stamets gets the idea to "pull it out." And it grows into Culber.
Also did anyone else notice what's not in the trailer?
Ship-to-ship combat. Arguably no combat of any sort.
We see more of the asteroid fields from the first trailer, but no signs of Discovery exchanging fire. Pike and some others are walking around on an away mission with weapons drawn, but no fire is exchanged.
They at least want us to think that combat will play a much more minor role this season.
Ship-to-ship combat. Arguably no combat of any sort.
We see more of the asteroid fields from the first trailer, but no signs of Discovery exchanging fire. Pike and some others are walking around on an away mission with weapons drawn, but no fire is exchanged.
They at least want us to think that combat will play a much more minor role this season.
She seems to have hair in that scene as well.
Ship to ship combat really didn't play all that big of a role in the first season either.
It wouldn't be hard to pick 15 random episodes of DS9 or VOY that had more.
Looked like he was part of a training thing to me, it looks like the female klingon and Tyler were training and he did something to them.
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