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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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I'm denying your opinions relevance to whether or not they go that route in the movie. They seem to be grabbing from aspects from all over Carol history.

All I said was that the amnesia stuff in the movie was more similar to the amnesia of Ms. marvel's first costumed appearances then it was to the Rogue related stuff. That is relevant.
 
And all I was doing was defending the Kelly Sue Deconnick run. I mean, I agree that your opinion about that run is certainly your opinion. But not much else.
 
Well, I think the evidence speaks for itself. The tumor amnesia storyline basically disappeared within months of it happening. If it was super popular, I doubt it would have gone away so fast or been mostly ignored by other books even when it was happening :shrug:
 
How far in advance would a comic storyline like that be planned out? Would it be fast enough for fan reaction to impact such a short arc?
I think it's also partly because even announcing a new project post A-4 may give away how things will shake out. I mean just for argument's sake what if the post credit scene for A-4 is Carol sat there, eating something that's not Shawarma...and then suddenly Rogue tackles her. Cut to black. That would be a lot less cool and surprising if they'd already announced 3 new MCU based X-Men movies are in production.

...still, having Anna Paquin just rugby tackle her out of nowhere would be hilarious, no matter how illogical. :lol:
I want to see this happen, just to watch everyone lose their shit.
 
Carol Danvers had amnesia in her first costumed appearances, long before the incident with Rogue. Out of costume she wouldn't remember being Ms. marvel, having a dual personality for awhile. I'm assuming elements of this are what they're adapting when it comes to the amnesia plot, not the issues she had after she encountered Rogue.

Carol and amnesia do have a bit of history together.

Aside from her early stories and what happened with Rogue, there is this bit from Kelly Sue DeConnick's run that has far more dramatic potential...

That is interesting. I had no idea this was such a recurring theme for her.

Though I would still say in the world of movies as opposed to comics that it would probably be too repetitive to throw on the Rogue/Carol storyline on top of another amnesia storyline. But maybe they could make it work, who knows.
 
I wonder where she was when Thanos attacked the ship. Maybe it has something to do with Sif (he says, knowing that we'll probably never see Sif again or get an explanation about what happened to her...).
 
I wonder where she was when Thanos attacked the ship. Maybe it has something to do with Sif (he says, knowing that we'll probably never see Sif again or get an explanation about what happened to her...).

Thor probably ordered them to abandon ship and sent her with Korg and Miek to protect them.
 
Could be interesting. I wonder if they would go for surviving villains from the movies or introduce the characters from the comic version? Victoria Hand is the only character listed as a team member on Wikipedia who has appeared in the MCU so far and she is both dead and a good guy.
 
Could be interesting. I wonder if they would go for surviving villains from the movies or introduce the characters from the comic version? Victoria Hand is the only character listed as a team member on Wikipedia who has appeared in the MCU so far and she is both dead and a good guy.

Also, a tv character exclusively.

I was really hoping for a Thunderbolts movie with General Ross in charge and Zemo and Vulture plus some other surviving villains, and also introduce Songbird as a small-time villain who wants to change. That's probably not going to happen if this does. At the very least, I hope Zemo and Vulture show up here in some way.
 
There's also Ghost. She's a shoe in for this group.

Is she really? As of the end of AatW she's basically a good guy.

This is really the biggest problem with a Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers concept based on where the MCU currently is. I can come up with a list of names that could be on it, but it doesn't feel much like a natural, workable list.

Ghost is a good guy. Vulture is bordering on repentant. Zemo is probably even less repentant than before after he sees the Avengers name recover and wants to finish the job of ruining them, but he also has no powers and would really make more sense as a 'how do we destroy the avengers?' consultant.

Any one of these could work, I think, as the 'exception' on the team, and maybe even two together would be fine, but all three of them feels kind of weird.

Mordo is unconcerned with non-sorceror stuff and too powerful for the govt. to find/control him. Shocker, Tinkerer, Mysterio and/or Scorpion could work, but then you have half the team packed with Spidey villains and it starts to feel like the Sinister Six. Grandmaster is way too powerful. Red Skull is on an alien planet (and Hugo Weaving isn't interested). Loki is dead (and too powerful, anyway).

I suppose they could theoretically find Yellowjacket in the quantum realm, disfigured and pissed off, or rebuild Ultron with some programming tweaks to force him to obey, or reveal there was a secret back-up of Arnim Zola and a prototype robot body. That would make things a bit more balanced.

And there are still other films coming out. Maybe Captain Marvel will introduce someone who's usable. Or Black Widow. Other than that, it seems such a film will kind of have to introduce quite a few characters brand new.
 
I'm generally not a fan of fan theories, but I genuinely like this one.

Only Abraham Erskine was able to perfect the super soldier serum and he could only make it work once. His earlier attempt created The Red Skull, and later attempts to duplicate the serum created the Hulk and the Abomination.

what if the missing ingredient from the earlier attempt and then the later attempts was... The heart-shaped herb?

Wakanda donated a small amount of vibranium to the war effort, why not a small sample of flower or bud from the heart-shaped herb?


http://therealstanlee.com/captain-america-black-panther-powers-same/
 
Only Abraham Erskine was able to perfect the super soldier serum and he could only make it work once. His earlier attempt created The Red Skull, and later attempts to duplicate the serum created the Hulk and the Abomination.

what if the missing ingredient from the earlier attempt and then the later attempts was... The heart-shaped herb?

Ooh, that's clever.

In Luke Cage season 2, when they were talking about the special strain of African nightshade that gave Bushmaster his superstrength, I was wondering if they were going to mention at some point that it came from Wakanda. They never made the connection explicit, but I like to think it was related to the HSH somehow.
 
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