Final sad Fates of TOS crew....

[Dar70]

Just taking into account live action official canon,.(No cartoons,books or fan films)it's pretty sad where much of the crew ended up. Kirk made it decades into the future by a time ribbon only to die crushed by a suspension bridge. Spock lived a natural life decades to that same timeframe and died 25 years after Kirk in an Alternate Reality ( in the past) that he helped create. McCoy lived a long natural life decades later and currentl whereabouts/fate unknown. Scottys pattern was pulled out of an old transporter alive and well decades into the future. Last know whereabouts....traveling space In an Enterprise D shuttle craft. The rest of the crew fate unknown.

 

[Pauln6]

Chekov, Sulu, and Uhura were 15-20 years younger than McCoy so they might have still been alive with Admiral McCoy.

Given that Chapel and Rand seem to give up deep space postings in favour of Starfleet Command, it's quite possible that they settled down to raise families after 2278. They would only have been mid forties.

That said, Rand is cataloguing gaseous anomalies with Sulu in 2293 so not a huge amount of time in there for any children to grow up. We do know that there are active Starfleet officers with families (Matt Decker, Winona Kirk, Sulu) although Kirk's reaction to Demora implies that none of the others in the big 7 have progeny (except McCoy who joined Starfleet later in life after years of practising as an old country doctor).

Most likely the reason why we don't hear anything about them is because they retired.

 

[FormerLurker]

When you take into account the fact that Grace Lee Whitney was actually the same age as William Shatner (older on paper because he fudged his birthdate), and the characters are all assumed to be the same age as their actors, Rand could well have had a family already, and had joined Starfleet afterward for unknown reasons. And Kirk didn't know his crew as well as he thought he did, or he would have known Demora on sight and reacted to her differently.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Actually, only Kirk had a sad fate... Everyone else did pretty well.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Indeed. To paraphrase McCoy, what's so sad about not havin' died yet?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Actually, only Kirk had a sad fate... Everyone else did pretty well.

SPOCK: I dedicate my life to Romulan/Vulcan reunification.

ROMULUS:

VULCAN:

 

[Albertese]

I know you said no novels, but seeing as how we've already about dried up the canon references after six posts, I'll throw out the book The Autobiography of Jean-Luc Picard.

SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THE BOOK. Minor spoilers.

While Picard was a cadet (or maybe as a young officer), Spock gets married and Picard, through unexpected circumstance, is in attendance. Officiating the wedding was the very president of the UFP, an eldery Nyota Uhura. In the same story, Admiral Pavel Chekov was one of the important command staff at Starfleet during the Cardassian War. After his own retirement, Picard went on to serve an ambassadorial role to the planet Vulcan, where he and Spock developed a measure of friendship and was involved in the events that led to Spock trying to save Romulus. He felt grief and a sense of responsibility for the (as far as he know) death of Spock.

I'm curious what other hypothetical fates for the crew happened in print. I've only read a fraction of the Trek novels out there.

--Alex

P.S. How does one use Spoiler code to hide text? I don't know how to do that.

 

[johnnybear]

Shatner was 37 at the time of TOS and playing a Kirk at the age of 34 so that one was off! Spock's age is a bit of a concern! Just how old was he at the time of TOS? Having served in Starfleet for the last eighteen years could mean he was roughly the same age as Kirk give a few years older....
JB

 

[Pauln6]

Character ages vs actor ages is a bit of a curiosity, especially when you consider Tuvok. As far as I know, Sulu and Uhura were a few years younger than Kirk, McCoy and Scotty were 5-10 years older. They do have official bios with dates of birth but I'm not sure how many of these appeared on screen. The youngest Spock would ordinarily be in the Cage would be 22, assuming he is fresh out of the academy and has only just joined the ship but NuTrek suggests that he is a year older than Kirk, which would just about tally if Kirk is 33 in season 1, and Talos was 13 years earlier, Spock would be 21-22.

NuTrek is a bit bonkers since Spock is a full commander at 26-27, Kirk is a Captain at 25-26, while Sulu and Uhura are seemingly both lieutenants fresh out of the academy at age 22. Don't get me started on Chekov.

If you think about it, if Chekov is 18 years younger than McCoy, he could be a spry 120 at the time of TNG. Perfect age to start a family.

 

[Mysterion]

Well, IMO, in TOS when we first see Chekov he would be right around the age of 22 or 23 being fresh from Starfleet Academy.

 

[Pauln6]

Well, IMO, in TOS when we first see Chekov he would be right around the age of 22 or 23 being fresh from Starfleet Academy.

I think he and Kirk get age checks in the Deadly Years as 22 and 34 respectively although both actors were older. That's certainly young to be retiring in STVI. He'd only be about 48.

 

[Mysterion]

^^
Yup. And, IIRC, Sarek gets an age check both in TOS' Journey to Babel as well as in TNG's Sarek (102 and 202, respectively).

 

[johnnybear]

That means a whole century between both episodes!!! I'm sure there can't be a hundred years or is that right?
JB

 

[Pauln6]

If McCoy was 138 in Farpoint, that does make it just under 100 years doesn't it? Sarek's age sounds about right. T'Pau appeared in Enterprise as a youngish woman so I suppose that's about the same for her.

Tuvok looked great for his age!

Would Jolene Blalock be willing to reprise her role in Discovery I wonder.

 

[The Old Mixer]

IIRC, Chekov's age was also stated in "Who Mourns for Adonais?"

That means a whole century between both episodes!!! I'm sure there can't be a hundred years or is that right?

That would be about right according to the Okuda chronology. TOS season 2 was 2267-2268; TNG Season 3 was 2366. The early promotion of TNG said that it was 78 years after the time of TOS, but they were going by the then-latest movie, The Voyage Home.

 

[johnnybear]

Which has a pimple on it's a** too in as much as how long after TMP is TVH? It's never sat well with me that TMP is supposed to be set three years after TOS let alone the gap between TMP and TWOK being fifteen years or more!
JB

 

[Phaser Two]

It's Who Mourns where Chekov is stated as 22.

The entire rank and Academy graduation system in JJTrek makes no sense and is just there for mindless entertainment, much like all three movies taken together.

 

[Pauln6]

If Kirk is 50 in TWOK then it would actually be about 16 years after Space Seed, so not far out. It doesn't really matter how long after TOS TMP is in the grand scheme of things. It has to be over 5 years before TWOK but otherwise it's up for grabs.

 

[johnnybear]

But having TMP three years after TOS is a bit of a stretch surely?
JB

 

[Nightowl1701]

But having TMP three years after TOS is a bit of a stretch surely?
JB

Depends where in the FYM we were when the show ended. Most sources figure at least another year passed (in which TAS happened, among other unseen adventures), possibly two, before the ship put in to drydock. I've seen pictures of the cast taken in 1974 (for a Hollywood wax museum), five years after the show ended, and they already look pretty much as they did in TMP (if not a little rougher). The rest you can chalk up to the Enterprise's tech being decades behind the times (hence why it was so complete a rebuild) and the uniform swap-out.