Star Trek to general audiences is Kirk and Spock though, Picard/TNG at an absolute stretch.
They can get away with a series that focuses on other parts of the ST universe but a tentpole movie? No chance.
Should they still make movies in the Kelvin Universe?
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Star Trek to general audiences is Kirk and Spock though, Picard/TNG at an absolute stretch.
They can get away with a series that focuses on other parts of the ST universe but a tentpole movie? No chance.
To clarify my post - A Kelvin movie with the entire cast sans Pine would be
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A TOS movie w a new set of characters not on the enterprise would be pretty interesting
Also a movie set in Prime after the Dominion war w a new ship/crew would be great too
If that is normal Trek, I wouldn't be a Star Trek fan. NextGen is the reason why I wasn't a fan at all until Star Trek 2009 came out and while I am forcing myself to watch NextGen(So I can say I've watched all ST series), I still find it boring and pretentious.
Does it really matter? I mean, even if the next movie is a reboot that takes place in a different universe, how is it really going to be all that different than before? Watch the Tobey McGuire Spiderman movies, then watch the Andrew Garfield movies, and then watch the Tom Holland movie. They're all different continuities, but at their core, none of them are really all that different.
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True but you're talking about three reboots of the same character - I don't think there's the appetite for multiple TOS big screen reboots for a start - there's barely the appetite for this one, and if it was something that didn't involve Kirk and Spock etc then what would it focus on? Discovery? A TNG reboot? Something completely new and untried? I think the only thing that would even have the slightest of chances of success out of those would be a TNG reboot, and that's a stretch.
Yes to more Star Trek movies, no to more Kelvin universe. I'm sure the next Kelvin universe movie will do even less than Beyond, which already tanked.
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I fear you may be correct, but Trek has recovered from underperforming sequels before with TVH, TUC, and ST09. It's possible for the next one to improve on Beyond's take but they need to knock it out of the park, market it well, and not release it amongst a load of other blockbusters this time.
Nah. I don't think what universe it's set in need effect the financial performance one way or the other. If you write a good audience-engaging movie you'll make coin. We've had three revenge tales so far. And that's fine but people broadly know what they're getting at this point.
If I was a shot caller, I'd wipe the universe clean, begin with a blank sheet, the basic Trek template & core characters and not be tethered to any universe. Forget Prime, Kelvin. Don't even assume there'll be an Enterprise A and move on with that.
If I was a shot caller, I'd wipe the universe clean, begin with a blank sheet, the basic Trek template & core characters and not be tethered to any universe. Forget Prime, Kelvin. Don't even assume there'll be an Enterprise A and move on with that.
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I agree that we need something new, something fresh for the movies. No matter what universe. New people, ships, etc.
I agree that we need something new, something fresh for the movies. No matter what universe. New people, ships, etc.
Having two sandboxes to play in will always be better than just one. If ST4 doesn’t happen, I could see the kelvinverse being revived 20 years from now with a new crew and new ship. Let CBS take on Trek for a decade while Paramount gets their shit together.
I’m ambivalent. I enjoy the movies but I’m not anxious to see more, not in the way that a fan would be. I don’t see them as Star Trek.
Now that Trek is back on telly, the movies would probably diverge massively to forge their own identity. That could make or break the kelvin stuff.
Now that Trek is back on telly, the movies would probably diverge massively to forge their own identity. That could make or break the kelvin stuff.
i think if we see the kelvin timeline films stop, paramount will quickly -- too quickly -- reboot the series and there's no telling how that would go. we could either get a spider-man homecoming situation or an amazing spider-man situation.
however, if star trek 4 gets delayed for an extended period of time, it could just end up being billed as the return of the kelvin timeline cast. people love things coming back.
something sort of similar has just happened with Boyles Bond. now the whole thing is possibly delayed and may even collapse which would lead to Craig leaving and a reboot happening a movie early. (or more likely they just get a new director for Craigs finale)
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And with Paramount's track record, would continue to be in development until the 23rd century.
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Paramount still have all the necessary standing sets to make more Kelvin movies? If budget is their problem, and they reboot, it's going to be MORE expensive than continuing with Kelvin. Of course, if the problem is the public is tired of Kelvin, that sort of capital expense may be necessary, but it's still a financial risk on their part to not recycle the existing sets/props/cg-models/costumes and start over again.
no idea about the sets. they were shipped from LA to vancouver for star trek beyond and then virtually destroyed in the enterprise takedown scenes, they might be gone at this point.
i wasn't exactly expecting a lot of reuse for star trek 4 given just how long it's been. that bridge set (if it survived) is now over a decade old.
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