Should they still make movies in the Kelvin Universe?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by The Overlord, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. pst

    pst Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    there's no evidence that they would move on, it's likely they can continue working on projects that predate whatever new deal is struck with disney or universal.

    don't forget they produced a star wars film in 2015 and a star trek film in 2016 -- you'd think they'd be mutually exclusive.
     
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  2. Lance

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    Just do a side movie. Ala the Star Wars ones. :D Set it in the Kelvinverse if you have to (no reason not to keep the possibility of those two projects alive), but spin a yarn about a different starship and crew. After all, Beyond ended on an open note. The Enterprise-A is still out there, somewhere, ready for future movies. ;)
     
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  3. Relayer1

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    At the very least it should keep Trek away from JJ and Bad Robot. Which works for me...
     
  4. XCV330

    XCV330 A Being of Pure Caffeine Premium Member

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    It looks better than starships opening B-17 style bomb bay doors and "dropping" bombs in space, or running out of space gas and falling backwards in the void, a la The Last Jedi, a sterling example of Abram oversight.
     
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  5. fireproof78

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    And how do the bombs in ESB work again?
     
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    The asteroid they were bombing had gravity.
     
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    XCV330 A Being of Pure Caffeine Premium Member

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    That was bombardment on a celestial body. The Last Jedi battles were all just ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    I honestly thought more thought and effort was put into the prequels than that steaming pile of.. ok anyway I get that a lot of people like it. I don't.
     
  8. fireproof78

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    Ooohhhh

    but the giant starship wouldn't have gravity. Got it :techman:

    I could point out many weird inconsistencies of space in Star Wars. That was par for the course, not a steaming pile of bantha poodoo, to use the common vernacular. ;)
     
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  9. Smellmet

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    Surely the ship only had artificial gravity inside it? I dunno.
     
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  10. King Daniel Beyond

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    Star Wars is fantasy, and has never tried to portray anything in a realistic manner. Star Trek sometimes likes to pretend it does, but doesn't really. Remember the USS Excelsior spluttering to a stop in STIII?
     
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  11. fireproof78

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    Now, I'm no physicist but I believe that part of gravity is mass. So, to my mind (limited though it might be), a large ship could generate at least some sort of gravity based upon mass alone. Which is why the asteroids and the ships make no difference to me. I mean, even the Death Star pulled the Executor towards itself when it crashed. Not seeing the problem...:shrug:
     
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    To be honest, I don't actually care about that scene really. The film commits way worse sins later on.
     
  13. Kemaiku

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    So did the interior of the T-wing, hence them dropping from it's artificial gravity. Or does something that simple need to be explained nearly a year later?
     
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  14. fireproof78

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    Of course :)
     
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  15. Smellmet

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    Like I said. I'm not bothered by the scene, I was just offering an opinion on fireproofs question about ESB. I dislike TLJ for a multitude of other reasons.
     
  16. Rahul

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    Using the artificial gravity of a ship to drop bombs would be a horrible way: Because the center of gravity would be somewhat close beneath the "floor" of the ship, which means all bombs would drop into space and fall back to the gravity generator on their own ship, and land on the underside of the ship dropping them.

    I always assumed that the TIE-bombers in "Empire Strikes back" simply had their ejection tubes faced downwards - that would make sense for, you know, a bomber. There is really nothing in ESB that supports the bombs were just "dropped" (like in Last Jedi), but that they were simply shot downwards, they were even glowing!

    Finally, an asteroid is orders of magnitude bigger than a starship, and - this is important - made of dense mass. That generates a gravity field (though not enough for Earth-like bomb dropping). A starship is hollow, the only real mass are the walls and engines.



    Also: I really don't care about realism in Star Wars. That bombing scene in the beginning is one of the few parts of the movie I really liked. The problem with the slow-chase speed wasn't the science behind it - it was that it was fucking boring - and that Finn and Rose simply could have used their hyperspace-capable ship to evacuate the 300+ people 50 people at a time to the Casino planed, and that the Empire suddenly forgot it had TIE-fighters that are faster than capital ships and could have blown the ship to pieces.
     
  17. Kemaiku

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    They would not go back as the artificial gravity only works inside the ship. It's never been shown to extend beyond the hull.
     
  18. fireproof78

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    No they didn't and that wasn't the point.
     
  19. M'Sharak

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    *ahem*

    There's a Star Wars forum right over here, guys.
     
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  20. fireproof78

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    Roger, boss, loud and clear.

    Also, just because it popped in to my mind (no offense intended)

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