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Looks like Episode 10 has started shooting
https://twitter.com/jonathansfrakes/status/1025006837253500930
https://twitter.com/jonathansfrakes/status/1025006837253500930
The Jason Issacs panel started a while ago, live tweets here
https://twitter.com/TrekMovie/with_replies
https://twitter.com/TrekMovie/with_replies
Any word on Lorca showing up in a flashback or Prime Lorca?
Private security at the DSC stars signing area? Wow
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1025071392499228673
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1025071392499228673
Fans can be rabid. Fans of a franchise who hate the latest installment even more so. 99.999% are all talk or "all keyboard" but, and I hate to say this, all it takes is one psycho.
So, we've got for Season 2 (that we know of):
The leaves Harry Mudd. Where does Harry fit into all of this? Presumably with the Klingons? Did L'Rell let him escape on purpose? What's going on there?
Marina Sirtis plays someone too, I'm guessing. One of Troi's great-grandparents? A totally new character having nothing to do with Deanna Troi? I'd like to see her playing someone totally different. That would be keeping in tradition with Majel Barrett playing Luaxana Troi who was nothing like Nurse Chapel or Number One.
And will there be a story with Admiral Cornwell, who I figure must be back? Will the focus be split between Pike on the search and then cutting back to Cornwell meanwhile at "home"?
Or does my head spin around in too many directions? I'm self-aware of these things. But I'm also wondering how much of this am I going to guess right?
- Pike and Discovery searching for Spock.
- Whatever's going on with Stamets, Culber, and Tilly with the spores.
- L'Rell and Tyler.
- Presumably Georgiou and Section 31.
- Something going on with Harry Mudd if he's in one of the shorts.
The leaves Harry Mudd. Where does Harry fit into all of this? Presumably with the Klingons? Did L'Rell let him escape on purpose? What's going on there?
Marina Sirtis plays someone too, I'm guessing. One of Troi's great-grandparents? A totally new character having nothing to do with Deanna Troi? I'd like to see her playing someone totally different. That would be keeping in tradition with Majel Barrett playing Luaxana Troi who was nothing like Nurse Chapel or Number One.
And will there be a story with Admiral Cornwell, who I figure must be back? Will the focus be split between Pike on the search and then cutting back to Cornwell meanwhile at "home"?
Or does my head spin around in too many directions? I'm self-aware of these things. But I'm also wondering how much of this am I going to guess right?
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Between the deadliest mass shooting in US history being carried out on a concert in Vegas less than a year ago by a shooter firing from inside another resort hotel, toxic manchildren who consider any kind of diverse hiring or minor political advocacy on the show to be a personal attack on their way of life, obsessed celebrity stalkers, and just the usual run-of-the-mill over-stimulated starstruck fans (let's call them "Brandons") who take Star Trek way too seriously, I can't say I blame them for being cautious. The odds of there being any major threats for the security to handle are very slim, but you never know nowadays, unfortunately.
It's interesting. Looking at the Golden Gormaganders and othe rpostings around the interwebs since the fall, "Si Vis Pacem" seems to be one of the most disliked episodes of S1. I myself would agree. And yet, this was EASILY the most "Star Trek" of DSC's episodes.
What gives?
What gives?
I don't dislike the episode, it was just my least favorite. And I like Saru but, again, least favorite.
I don't think this is my reason. Just that something Saru-focused doesn't excite me as much as everything else. But, when it comes to more purist/traditionalist Star Trek fans, you have a point. (I won't say "more conservative fans" because that could be misinterpreted as meaning political).
I don't think this is my reason. Just that something Saru-focused doesn't excite me as much as everything else. But, when it comes to more purist/traditionalist Star Trek fans, you have a point. (I won't say "more conservative fans" because that could be misinterpreted as meaning political).
To me, it just seemed like pointless time filler. The only thing that stands out about it is that the sparkly noncorporeal aliens liked to use chairs.
In retrospect, it was obviously tacked on, and that makes it very easy to pick as "worst" because it's so extraneous to the rest of the serialized arcs. (The flip side of this is "Magic to Make": easy to favorite because it's fun and self-contained.)
I don't hate "Si Vis," but it's guilty of my biggest complaints about Discovery in general: It dusts off a bunch of old Trek ideas -- noncorporeal aliens, singing plant life, crewman under alien influence -- and then doesn't have anything new or interesting to say about them. It's basically a retread of "This Side of Paradise," only done much worse than 50 years prior.
All that said, thank goodness some suit at CBS forced them to visit an alien planet.
In retrospect, it was obviously tacked on, and that makes it very easy to pick as "worst" because it's so extraneous to the rest of the serialized arcs. (The flip side of this is "Magic to Make": easy to favorite because it's fun and self-contained.)
I don't hate "Si Vis," but it's guilty of my biggest complaints about Discovery in general: It dusts off a bunch of old Trek ideas -- noncorporeal aliens, singing plant life, crewman under alien influence -- and then doesn't have anything new or interesting to say about them. It's basically a retread of "This Side of Paradise," only done much worse than 50 years prior.
All that said, thank goodness some suit at CBS forced them to visit an alien planet.
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Well It was said in some interview somewhere that CBS requested that they make a planet based episode.
I liked it the least of the choices available, but the last two episodes were much worse than that one.
My main issues with it are that it distracts from the Klingon arc, its anti cloaking plan feels nonsensical, Saru's level of devestation is hard to buy as something that he can really get past so that undermines his believability as a commander, and the planet/aliens are just kind of there and not really interesting to watch.
I did like the basic concept, though, and the way the aliens tried to be peacemakers.
It also feels cheap. Like early run sg1 or running out of budget series one Farscape cheap...let’s run around some forests for a bit then forget it pretty much straight away. But DSC doesn’t have the varied character interaction to hang it on. For all it’s diversity, there is very little diversity of voice in the DSC crew. Everyone is so similar in speech and even behaviour.
That is a good list. So no Lorca?So, we've got for Season 2 (that we know of):
The Section 31 and Klingon storylines I can see meshing. The Spore Drive and The Search for Spock, I see going together.
- Pike and Discovery searching for Spock.
- Whatever's going on with Stamets, Culber, and Tilly with the spores.
- L'Rell and Tyler.
- Presumably Georgiou and Section 31.
- Something going on with Harry Mudd if he's in one of the shorts.
The leaves Harry Mudd. Where does Harry fit into all of this? Presumably with the Klingons? Did L'Rell let him escape on purpose? What's going on there?
Marina Sirtis plays someone too, I'm guessing. One of Troi's great-grandparents? A totally new character having nothing to do with Deanna Troi? I'd like to see her playing someone totally different. That would be keeping in tradition with Majel Barrett playing Luaxana Troi who was nothing like Nurse Chapel or Number One.
And will there be a story with Admiral Cornwell, who I figure must be back? Will the focus be split between Pike on the search and then cutting back to Cornwell meanwhile at "home"?
Or does my head spin around in too many directions? I'm self-aware of these things. But I'm also wondering how much of this am I going to guess right?
Nothing has been said.
Honestly, I think Pike's effectively our replacement for Lorca this season. They'll probably have him in such a way that he'll be everything Lorca wasn't. In other words, he'll be a proper Captain. I think Saru will like him.
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