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Casting Pike's Number One

Of course that shock and horror extend to gays who hate the fact that gay has picked up the addtional meaning of "lame."
Such usage has fallen out of favor. That was more of a '90s thing.

And "lame" itself was originally a neutral word denoting physical disability, which unfortunately took on the colloquial meaning of something that's uncool or disappointing.

Kor
 
Just happened to find this. :techman: :

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Such usage has fallen out of favor. That was more of a '90s thing.

And "lame" itself was originally a neutral word denoting physical disability, which unfortunately took on the colloquial meaning of something that's uncool or disappointing.

Kor

I have a gay friend who still uses the word 'gay' to mean 'lame'

They're behind on the times I guess.
 
Such usage has fallen out of favor. That was more of a '90s thing.

And "lame" itself was originally a neutral word denoting physical disability, which unfortunately took on the colloquial meaning of something that's uncool or disappointing.

Kor

Exactly. "How lame is Tiny Tim?" has a whole new meaning these days. :)
 
...detail-oriented fans (and there are many, if online message boards are any indication) would have cried fowl at the missed opportunity for a canon, official explanation for the nickname.
Detail-oriented fans have cried foul at a great many things about ST09; the lack of a new explanation for Bones's nickname would've been a long way down the list. (If it was in fact an ad lib, then even the writers didn't think it was necessary...)

Then how should the "Bones" nickname have been explained in ST09?
As I suggested, if the writers felt it necessary to explain at all, it could've been done with a brief joking exchange — except referencing the actual explanation, not an invented one. Say, some situation arises where McCoy grumbles to Kirk that he's "a modern doctor, not some medieval sawbones," and boom, there you have it.

"It wasn't what I wanted" doesn't make it stupid.
Neither @Longinus nor anyone else objected on those grounds, so this is a complete straw man.

what came into my mind was 'Kelvinator'. Then, I thought Aha!....if that brand was still well-known, people would have been using the word in potentially all kinds of funny ways to describe things from the Abramsverse
What's more important to know, I'd reckon, is that both the appliance brand and the ship in ST09 were named after the same guy, because he's also the source of the temperature scale.

It makes sense in context, it makes sense as a possible reason why Kirk calls him Bones, and does nothing to undo TOS' origin of the term.
I'd say none of the above. The line is excessively contrived and on-the-nose (one of many lines of dialogue in that film that made me wince); it makes zero sense that Kirk would choose a nickname that reminds McCoy of a painful divorce; and it implicitly displaces the original explanation.
 
I'd say none of the above. The line is excessively contrived and on-the-nose (one of many lines of dialogue in that film that made me wince); it makes zero sense that Kirk would choose a nickname that reminds McCoy of a painful divorce; and it implicitly displaces the original explanation.
Agree to disagree on that one. The original still exists and the new one exists. There is nothing omitted.

Also, it is reading in to the material that Bones objected to the nickname.
 
Incidentally...

Most people know that McCoy was called Bones in TOS...

Just out of curiosity, I ran a quick script search. Across all of TOS (and its movies), I got 311 results for the words "Bones"... and only 29 results for "Leonard." So yeah, anyone who's heard of the character at all is more than ten times as likely to know him by the nickname!...
 
Incidentally...



Just out of curiosity, I ran a quick script search. Across all of TOS (and its movies), I got 311 results for the words "Bones"... and only 29 results for "Leonard." So yeah, anyone who's heard of the character at all is more than ten times as likely to know him by the nickname!...
Is someone arguing otherwise? :shrug:
 
What's more important to know, I'd reckon, is that both the appliance brand and the ship in ST09 were named after the same guy, because he's also the source of the temperature scale.

I was comparing Kelvinator to "sawbones" in terms of things that have fallen off the map of usage by the general population over time.

The "importance" of knowing about Kelvin is a separate issue.
 
I understand, in the sense that "Kelvinator" jokes about the Abrams timeline haven't become a thing. I was just saying that in terms of an analogy pertaining to the historical background for a name in the show (and audience familiarity therewith or lack of same), the scientist was more relevant than the appliances.
 
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