USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

[Dukhat]

It's not irrelevant if the whole argument is about whether the technology behind the function is different, which was what I was responding to.

I believe that the original argument was that there wasn't a continuity violation with TOS because the technology was different between the Romulan cloaking device in BoT and the Klingon cloak in DSC (and that was just a hypothesis based only on the fact that the Klingon ship flickered). And I pointed out that the tech was irrelevant because the tech had nothing to do with the argument. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, a ship that could make itself invisible was unknown to Kirk and Spock. Spock even argues about how it could theoretically be possible. But ten years before, Starfleet already knew that Klingon ships could be invisible. Several Starfleet ships were destroyed precisely because they were attacked by ships that could turn invisible. So yes, there's a continuity violation here, whether certain people want to believe it or not, or rationalize it away with some BS.

 

[TrickyDickie]

 

[ITDUDE]

When people think original Enterprise maybe they are thinking this?

Grainy footage, bad lighting. 1960s VFX

But in addition to the Enterprise on the last page, just browsing randomly on the internet found this one:

The lighting is not as good as previous page, but with just a little decent rendering the original Connie is beautiful and can definitely belong on 21st TV

 

[Jesse1066]

When people think original Enterprise maybe they are thinking this?

Grainy footage, bad lighting. 1960s VFX

But in addition to the Enterprise on the last page, just browsing randomly on the internet found this one:

The lighting is not as good as previous page, but with just a little decent rendering the original Connie is beautiful and can definitely belong on 21st TV

I'd say @Donny's very recently made Enterprise is worth checking out if you've not already seen it. Particularly impressive work, if you ask me.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

I just found this pics of a new Kelvin model by Moebius. It looks great. For a ship designed in "2009" It sure does a great job paying homage to TOS without drastically changing it's core design aesthetic.

Give me a fleet that looks like this over Discovery's fleet of ships that have too many harsh angles and jagged edges and blocky nacelles.

 

[Vger23]

I just found this pics of a new Kelvin model by Moebius. It looks great. For a ship designed in "2009" It sure does a great job paying homage to TOS without drastically changing it's core design aesthetic.

Give me a fleet that looks like this over Discovery's fleet of ships that have too many harsh angles and jagged edges and blocky nacelles.

Taste is an interesting thing isn't it? I can't stand the Kelvinverse design aesthetics. To me it's just very very uninteresting. I much prefer the design asthetic of DSC.

And I LOVE TOS.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Taste is an interesting thing isn't it? I can't stand the Kelvinverse design aesthetics. To me it's just very very uninteresting. I much prefer the design asthetic of DSC.

And I LOVE TOS.

The Kelvinverse was a mixed bag for me really. I liked the Kelvin and the Franklin, but the other ships didn't do it for me. I liked the Kelvin Enteprise at first but I don't like it much these days.

 

[Vger23]

The Kelvinverse was a mixed bag for me really. I liked the Kelvin and the Franklin, but the other ships didn't do it for me. I liked the Kelvin Enteprise at first but I don't like it much these days.

I admit that the Kelvin itself is a nice design. I really didn't like the new Enterprise though. It's weird, because I like the movies, but can't stand most of the production design at all.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

I admit that the Kelvin itself is a nice design. I really didn't like the new Enterprise though. It's weird, because I like the movies, but can't stand most of the production design at all.

I loved the Kelvin. That whole opening sequence was great. But yeah, I thought the Enterprise looked best in the first film but they kept making weird changes to it in the sequels.

 

[fireproof78]

Give me a fleet that looks like this over Discovery's fleet of ships that have too many harsh angles and jagged edges and blocky nacelles.

Give me both.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Weird question: do we know for sure we'll be seeing the Enterprise bridge next season, or will Spock's quarters perhaps be the extent of our visit?

Because I can imagine them doing that

 

[pst]

Taste is an interesting thing isn't it? I can't stand the Kelvinverse design aesthetics. To me it's just very very uninteresting. I much prefer the design asthetic of DSC.

it is. and it’s the impetus for so much discussion here but rarely actually identified.

i love the kelvin timeline aesthetic for the most part, including the hot rod enterprise. my personal affinity for the ship aside, i appreciate the ground up approach scott chambliss and ryan church took designing the kelvin enterprise. it’s clear the producers approached the redesign with a vision in mind. obviously your appreciation for that vision will vary, but it’s distinct.

the problem with the discovery enterprise is i don’t see a vision. it’s almost like the designers asked “what can we change?” as opposed to “how can we do this differently?” and what they produced was muddled to the point that people actually believed the ship had to be tweaked 25% just to meet some bizarre legal requirements, as opposed to representing artistic intent.

 

[cooleddie74]

The Kelvin is a beautiful ship and better than almost every ship we've yet seen in DSC, adhering far more closely to the TOS and ENT design aesthetics and giving us a very believable evolutionary midpoint between the NX-01 and the starships of the TOS Movie Era.

Now, the engine room and other internal areas of the Kelvin? That's a different story. But the bridge and external appearance and design of the vessel are pretty nice for an early 23rd century Federation starship and she fits pretty smoothly into the design lineage from ENT through DS9 and VOY.

 

[Belz...]

The lighting is not as good as previous page, but with just a little decent rendering the original Connie is beautiful and can definitely belong on 21st TV

As said above, taste is a weird thing. I think that image just proves the opposite.

As for the rest, I like the DSC and reboot and TOS and TNG and other Trek designs. Give me more Trek!

 

[Groppler Zorn]

Weird question: do we know for sure we'll be seeing the Enterprise bridge next season, or will Spock's quarters perhaps be the extent of our visit?

Because I can imagine them doing that

Well we all know what the bridge looks like so we don’t really need to see it again...

But after the reaction the Enterprise has provoked I’d love them to subvert expectations a la “last Jedi” and only have Michael walking down an enterprise corridor while she does her usual terrible voiceover before she’s recalled to discovery as they’ve already solved whatever problem the Enterprise had and the big E warps off.

But since that isn’t going to happen I think we’ll definitely see quite a bit of the Enterprise - they have plenty of Discovery sets to redress so they won’t have to build very much from scratch.

 

[PiotrB]

Good modernization but 3d model isn't to detailed (needs more detailed textures and more polygons). Anyway this is look which should have been used in ENT's mirror universe episodes for this class so NX-01 did not look more modern than supposedly newer ship.

 

[Mudd]

I liked all of the JJVerse design, but particularly the bridge of the Kelvin.

 

[ITDUDE]

Good modernization but 3d model isn't to detailed (needs more detailed textures and more polygons). Anyway this is look which should have been used in ENT's mirror universe episodes for this class so NX-01 did not look more modern than supposedly newer ship.

NX-01 didn't look more modern than the Defiant.

 

[Tuskin38]

Good modernization but 3d model isn't to detailed (needs more detailed textures and more polygons). Anyway this is look which should have been used in ENT's mirror universe episodes for this class so NX-01 did not look more modern than supposedly newer ship.

This is for a video game, which also has a mobile version, so the models are not going to be that high quality.

And the NX-01 did not look more advanced then the Defiant.

 

[Mad Jack Wolfe]

I just found this pics of a new Kelvin model by Moebius. It looks great. For a ship designed in "2009" It sure does a great job paying homage to TOS without drastically changing it's core design aesthetic.

Give me a fleet that looks like this over Discovery's fleet of ships that have too many harsh angles and jagged edges and blocky nacelles.

Meh. Needs more flare.