Alex Kurtzman Gets New Deal With CBS, Will Expand 'Star Trek' TV

[Groppler Zorn]

What evidence have you observed that leads you to think that we'll see "Jane Kirk" and that Spock is an android?

Nothing directly of course and given that DSC prides itself on putting women in strong lead roles I actually think we should insist that Kirk (when they eventually appear) is recast as female. I know that sounds glib but I mean that sincerely - like what has been done with doctor who recently.

My point was that if tptb are ok are changing the visuals and some fans act like quasi-cardassian totalitarians in expecting all of fandom should be ok with those changes (that’s just banter btw I just wanted to use that captain Braxton line!) then what’s to stop tptb changing something more substantial, like Jane Kirk? And would anyone have a problem with Jane Kirk really? I actually wouldn’t

 

[Nerys Myk]

A lot of people are happy with the party line.

It's their party.

 

[Vger23]

I've said it a million times....it clear Starfleet has used different contractors and different design philosophies throughout history when constructing and refitting starships. In fact, the films all but confirm this!

Look how fast technology changes in the 21st century. I'm sure it's even crazier in the 23rd.

It's as easy to find reasons to rationalize this stuff in a positive way as it is to do do it in a negative way if you want.

 

[Tuskin38]

And would anyone have a problem with Jane Kirk really?

If they keep calling it Prime I would.

If they admit it's a reboot, then full power to them.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

It's their party.

It’s their DISCO

 

[Groppler Zorn]

If they keep calling it Prime I would.

If they admit it's a reboot, then full power to them.

So the line is between the Enterprise and the characters for changes being ok in “prime”? Unless we say the Enterprise is a character... curse the grey area the visual reboot casts!

 

[Tuskin38]

So the line is between the Enterprise and the characters for changes being ok in “prime”? Unless we say the Enterprise is a character... curse the grey area the visual reboot casts!

Changing Kirk to female wouldn't be just a visual change.

 

[dahj]

then what’s to stop tptb changing something more substantial, like Jane Kirk?

What's to stop them from having Obi-Wan Kenobi as the new captain of the Discovery?

If we're gonna do silly hypotheticals that aren't gonna happen, let's at least go all the way.

 

[Jinn]

What's to stop them from having Obi-Wan Kenobi as the new captain of the Discovery?

If we're gonna do silly hypotheticals that aren't gonna happen, let's at least go all the way.

Time to get my fan fiction out!

 

[Groppler Zorn]

Changing Kirk to female wouldn't be just a visual change.

Haven’t they made the Enterprise bigger? That’s more than just a visual change

 

[Groppler Zorn]

What's to stop them from having Obi-Wan Kenobi as the new captain of the Discovery?

If we're gonna do silly hypotheticals that aren't gonna happen, let's at least go all the way.

What you call silly I call awesome

Hello there...

 

[Nerys Myk]

Haven’t they made the Enterprise bigger? That’s more than just a visual change

That happened between the Cage/WNMHGB and TOS.

 

[BillJ]

...reboot.

Psst... so is Discovery. At least in pretty much every meaningful way.

And no... before anyone asks. I'm not...
*Lonely.
*Crazy.
*Contrarian.
*Living in my parents basement.

Every one has things that irks them. The party line that Discovery is somehow in the same universe irks me. Them trying to bolt on their pet project to a fifty year old show irks me. It would irk me if they completely changed the look of TNG and gave Data a human sister. It comes across as creatively uninspired

And no... before anyone asks. I'm don't want...
*Anyone fired.
*Anyone to receive death threats.
*Anyone to say they received their accolades due to the system being fixed.
*Anyone to change their views based on what I think. Watch the show, and make up your own mind. But, don't let CBS tell you what it is.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

That happened between the Cage/WNMHGB and TOS.

Did it? (Genuine curiosity not skepticism there btw!) I know they added a couple hundred extra crew from pike’s era to Kirk’s - but I guessed they just “packed em in” like Dax said and they just added bunk beds (starfleet on the cheap, like). Is there evidence (noncanon or beta canon even) that the E got bigger? I’ll have to adjust my view on this if so

 

[Groppler Zorn]

Also, as I’ve brought it up:

1. What if Kurtzman et al. made a Jane Kirk show? Personally I would watch the crap out of it.

2. What if they said it was similarly “prime”? (And be nice...)

 

[Lord Garth]

Psst... so is Discovery. At least in pretty much every meaningful way.

And no... before anyone asks. I'm not...
*Lonely.
*Crazy.
*Contrarian.
*Living in my parents basement.

Every one has things that irks them. The party line that Discovery is somehow in the same universe irks me. Them trying to bolt on their pet project to a fifty year old show irks me. It would irk me if they completely changed the look of TNG and gave Data a human sister. It comes across as creatively uninspired

And no... before anyone asks. I'm don't want...
*Anyone fired.
*Anyone to receive death threats.
*Anyone to say they received their accolades to the system being fixed.
*Anyone to change their views based on what I think. Watch the show, and make up your own mind. But, don't let CBS tell you what it is.

Sure we disagree about Discovery but that's where it stops. It's as far as it goes.

If we were posting in TNZ, based on what I've been able to see from your political leanings, we'd probably almost always be in agreement. I just don't post in TNZ because -- most of the time -- I'm on TrekBBS to get away from that stuff.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

Psst... so is Discovery. At least in pretty much every meaningful way.

And no... before anyone asks. I'm not...
*Lonely.
*Crazy.
*Contrarian.
*Living in my parents basement

That’s the way I’m looking at it now. Although I am more contrarian than is sensible! Haha!

It would irk me if they completely changed the look of TNG and gave Data a human sister. It comes across as creatively uninspired

This is what gives me pause about a new show with Picard... am i being too precious by saying that these changes make tptb seem like they don’t care enough about the source material?

 

[BillJ]

2. What if they said it was similarly “prime”? (And be nice...)

I'd think the same way about the claim as I do the one they've made about Discovery.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Did it? (Genuine curiosity not skepticism there btw!) I know they added a couple hundred extra crew from pike’s era to Kirk’s - but I guessed they just “packed em in” like Dax said and they just added bunk beds (starfleet on the cheap, like). Is there evidence (noncanon or beta canon even) that the E got bigger? I’ll have to adjust my view on this if so

It's something I've read.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Did it? (Genuine curiosity not skepticism there btw!) I know they added a couple hundred extra crew from pike’s era to Kirk’s - but I guessed they just “packed em in” like Dax said and they just added bunk beds (starfleet on the cheap, like). Is there evidence (noncanon or beta canon even) that the E got bigger? I’ll have to adjust my view on this if so

Here you go
Size

Remarkably, the dimension of the starship had been in flux until that time as producer Gene Roddenberry's memo of 24 August 1964 evidenced, "We anticipate a final design might see the ship as 200 feet in length, and thus even a 1½-inch scale would give us quite a huge miniature." This figure, initially accompanied with a crew complement of 203 would actually more or less stand until Jefferies, utilizing his engineering background, recalculated the figures for his design three years later. (The Making of Star Trek, pp. 89, 134)