Alex Kurtzman Gets New Deal With CBS, Will Expand 'Star Trek' TV
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Ah, so all fans feel that way? Hmmmmmmmmmmm no, I don't think so. I can't see that even most people think that. What makes you the arbiter of "most fans"?
They aren't. One was an icon in an iconic science fiction series. The other one isn't, but pretending it is the same.
They’re both equally the Enterprise
Ah but the Kroger is a reimagining of the Cottonelle for modern bathrooms. It’s what cottonelle always looked like this whole time - you couldn’t have it look like Kroger, that’s so dated and old fashioned! Two different things are clearly the same haha!I can put Kroger toilet paper in a Cottenelle package. But it sure isn't Cottenelle!
They aren't. One was an icon in an iconic science fiction series. The other one isn't, but pretending it is the same.
My Uncle had a Mustang II.
Wasn't it built on Pinto framework, IIRC?
Yes, but that was fair - the original 'Stang was built on a Falcon chassis. For the first couple of years it was some stylish sheet metal riding on an old foundation.
Guess someone figured what worked once would work twice. But, notably, Ford's slogan "Quality is Job One" would not be coined until 1981...
Yes, I know you weren't literally saying it was wiping it from existence like Marty disappearing in Back to the Future. My point was that as long as you've still got access to the originals, what difference does it make? Every subsequent iteration of Trek has made changes to what's come before to varying degrees, and it's always been up to the fans to decide if they want to accept those changes and continue watching, or if they want to reject the changes and stick to watching the originals. Or, god forbid, be flexible and acknowledge that both versions can exist simultaneously and enjoy both as products of their time.I'm not talking about the show existing, I watched several episodes just the other night. On Blu-ray!
But why is it such a big deal? Saying it's Prime Universe just gives you a generalized setting, saying this is taking place in the same universe as TOS. It doesn't mean no changes are ever going to take place. TNG, DS9, & VOY changed aspects of events and species and other things from TOS, but that doesn't make them any less Prime Universe. Nor should the setting take precedence over the stories (and you can avoid pointing out the obvious here that you don't like the stories either). You're putting way too much emphasis on the Prime Universe setting, when it's only supposed to be a rough guideline.I'm talking about its place in the supposed Prime universe. That is slowly but surely being overwritten. Which is fine. But I don't expect TPTB to piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. Just tell me you're pissing on my shoes and get it over with.
How would using the original make the stories of lesser quality?
It would drive away new fans
Using it would be more fan service then anything else in the series.
I’m not a big comic book guy. Are there actual examples of where comic book series in the same continuity (I.e. successive issues of the same story) where there are radically different artistic styles? I.e. the batmobile is a car in issue #4 but a tank in #5? If so, are we saying it’s a good thing that Star Trek adopts a comic book style of visual continuity? Wasn’t the marvel-esque, guardians of the galaxy stylistic approach one of the criticisms of the Abrams films?
You have proof of this? Using the Millenium Falcon in the modern Star Wars movies doesn't seem to have driven anyone away.
Then it should fit right in with the rest of the show.
this is true. sense of scale is really well done in Archer..
The Falcon wasn’t a simple, low detail design made for a 1960s TV series.
Neither was the Enterprise if one looks closely.
It’s a lot less detailed then the Falcon. The Falcon isn’t also meant to be a futuristic earth space ship
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