Your favourite current Superhero Lead Actor

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  1. Kane_Steel

    Kane_Steel Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Everything I said is right.


    Hence why there's No MOS 2. No one attached to it. No script. No progress on it in 5 years. MOS only made about 40 Mil profit theatrically for WB (11% ROI), which is very disappointing for them. It was also divisive with critics and audiences.

    Conversely, Ant-Man made 2.5 times that in profit, hence why Ant-Man gets a sequel and MOS does not.

    You don't know how Hollywood business works.

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    Also, Affleck isn't the lead of a superhero franchise. Margot Robbie and Momoa aren't leads of superhero franchises yet either, so that's why they were excluded. Will Smith is the top billed lead for the Suicide Squad franchise.
     
  2. Grendelsbayne

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    Robbie is one of the two leads of the Suicide Squad franchise. Smith being more famous doesn't change the fact that both of them had equal parts in both the narrative and the success of that movie. Take Robbie out of the equation and that franchise would crumble.
     
  3. CorporalCaptain

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    Reynolds, Evans, Benoist, Boseman, Smith, Robbie.
     
  4. XCV330

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    Downey. there wouldn't be an MCU without him.
     
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  5. The Realist

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    Superseconded.
    To be clear, Cavill doesn't get my vote, Gadot does. I just thought he should've been an option.
     
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  6. DigificWriter

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    @Kane_Steel There was a "Man of Steel 2"; it's called Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice.

    Also, Affleck is the co-lead of BvS and its direct sequel, Justice League, and Robbie is the co-lead of Suicide Squad.

    You arbitrarily deciding to exclude Cavill, Affleck, Momoa, and Robbie doesn't change the fact that they are in fact leads (or co-leads) of currently ongoing Superhero franchises.

    You also for some reason excluded Michael Fassbender and Jennifer Lawrence, who are co-leads of the still-ongoing XMCU's "core" series.
     
  7. dahj

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    If Margot Robbie isn't a "franchise lead", how come there's half a dozen Harley spin-offs in development? :shrug:
     
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  8. Noname Given

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    Chris Evans. He does sooo well in his performance and interpretation on the character of Steve Rogers/Captain America.

    I really hope he and they decide to re up another contract, but yeah, after 10 years and what will be nine appearances as the character across nine films; he could be getting tired of doing the character (as well as all the physicality involved in portraying the character. It's not like they CGI Cap to the same degree they do Iron Man ;)).

    While Cap wasn't my favorite Marvel character in the actual comics; he is in the MCU films.
     
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  9. N-121973

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  10. JD

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    Chris Evans
    Chris Hemsworth
    Chris Pratt
    Margot Robbie & Will Smith
    Melissa Benoist
    Grant Gustin
    Caity Lotz, Brandon Routh, & Dominic Purcell
    Clark Gregg & Chloe Bennet
    Kristen Ritter
    Charlie Cox
    Mike Colter
     
  11. kirk55555

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    Chris Evans for Marvel, and overall, but there are a bunch of good Marvel leads. Gal Gadot is a close second overall, and literally the only good live action lead DC has (including everyone of its live action superhero shows).
     
  12. Captaindemotion

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    Same here. It would be so easy to mess that character up, to make him naff, corny or twee but he absolutely plays him sincerely, just the right side of earnest. Not overly showy but very charismatic. A very underrated performance, IMHO.
     
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  13. The Realist

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    Wow, really? I'd be sincerely interested and entertained if you expounded on why the likes of Benoist and Gustin are not good leads, in your inimitable unhinged style. ;) (Hope it's not just that they don't conform closely enough to their comic book templates, because that's not really on them; they're playing the TV adaptations of the characters as written.)
     
  14. Janeway’s Girl

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    Gal Gadot - She makes an awesome and kick-ass Wonder Woman.

    Ryan Reynolds - He makes me laugh continuously.
     
  15. kirk55555

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    Because the characters are written like shit, not even making any comparison to the comics. On one side you have an emo idiot who has fucked up time and his own life so many times its literally unbelievable, and on the other you have someone who is either too meek, too reckless or completely defined by the fact that her love life is almost as much of a soap opera as Arrow's (and also generally incompetent and surrounded by people who are worse). These statements don't apply to Season 1-2 Flash or season 2 Supergirl, two characters I liked a good deal, but those characters are long gone.

    But, even when they had good material, Gustin and Benoist were just good actors in their roles. Gal Gadot is quite frankly amazing in her role, and in DC movie history the only other person who has fit their character that well was Christopher reeves. The MCU on the other hand has a hard time not casting the perfect person for a role, and the only main MCU actor/character combination that I don't think works well is Tom Holland as Spider-Man, and even that mostly comes down to him having bad material.
     
  16. Kor

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    Michael Fassbender, of course.

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  17. Kane_Steel

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    That's your opinion though.

    Fact is Will Smith is the official lead of S.S. He's the top billed.

    Leto is actually second billed, not Margot. Margot will likely get her own franchise once the Harley films start up.
     
  18. Kane_Steel

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    Lol. It's funny. You know you're wrong and now you're just reaching.

    I included the actors that are credited as the top-billed lead of their respective superhero franchise.

    Even if you want to accept BVS as a direct sequel to MOS and the official Superman sequel, Cavill isn't the top-billed lead of BVS, Affleck is.
     
  19. JD

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    I don't really see where it matter show they're billed for casual conversations like this. I'd say Harley and Deadshot got pretty close to even screen time and that makes Margot Robbie just as much lead in my mind as Will Smith.
    Same goes for Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill in BvS, they both get pretty much equal screen time and attention.
     
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  20. Kane_Steel

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    He's been saying the 'let's wait and see' narrative for a long time now.

    Brandon Routh said the same about HIS Superman Returns sequel.

    The actors are really powerless in this situation. It really comes down to the WB brass, and from a financial POV, a MOS sequel doesn't look very promising. They are looking at diminishing returns, and they know it. This is also a studio that expected MOS to break a billion:

    https://variety.com/2013/film/news/...-priciest-incarnation-of-superman-1200493334/

    Shareholders must have been pissed with MOS's low ROI of 11% and divisive audience and critic reactions.