It will eventually happen to Marvel, just like it happens to everything else.
Kathleen Kennedy Damaging Star Wars....?
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It will eventually happen to Marvel, just like it happens to everything else.
As is the nature of things. Something cannot continue on forever and to hold on to it past its time is to walk a path of pain.
Hell, it’s happened to Marvel before. And I ain’t talking about when the whole damn company nearly died not so long ago.
Despite attempts to write them out of their own history, a lot of the players that eventually became known as Marvel studios were very heavily involved in making and profiting from the Blade and Spider-Man trilogies. Blade was such a success for them, that it probably deserves most of the credit for Marvel Studios even existing.
And yet, both trilogies still tripped up in the end.
The MCU would also probably be a very different beast if it wasn’t the latest product of failure. All it would take is Paramount deciding to go with producing more Hulk instead Iron Man (or learned the wrong lesson from Incredible Hulk’s stumble), and we could have ended up in a DC situation.
Hell. If Marvel hadn’t had to sell itself off in pieces to any interested buyers, we might have never gotten blockbuster movies at all.
To loosely paraphrase a certain muppet, failure tends to be one of those things that ties together the past, present, and future. You can’t escape it, but it can also be what you make of it.
That’s happening with Rey, Finn and other characters already. You personally didn’t and projected that onto the entire human population. I assure you that you’re in the minority.
Based on the dismal toy sales I'd question that assurance.
Skeptical that that is an accurate marker.
Considering the OT and PT characters are also included amongst the modern lines that apparently ‘don’t sell’, I’m failing to see how.
And somewhat doesn’t stack up against the verifiable (aka. Sourced from places outside fanboy circles) fact it was literally impossible to get a Rey figure post TFA, because Disney had underestimated demand.
And that the PT line of toys was a fuck-up of epic proportions back in the day, yet somehow people seem to have latched onto the characters. To the point where they’re demanding a fucking McGregor Obi-Wan movie, because apparently we need to see ‘brooded in a cave collecting junk, whilst hiding his secret awesomness.’
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You know, i think I’ve just worked out why Star Wars fans have latched onto that character.
Memes and Ewan at least seemed to be enjoying being in the movie and his joy shines through.
I don’t think toy sales are the deciding factor for makes a movie a success.
Thor: The Dark World has already achieved depths that even AOTC can't. Easily the worst of all the existing MCU films.
Exactly. TFA was the most successful Star Wars film in North American history yet if you based its performance on the amount of toys that were stocked in stores and the number of said toys that lingered and rotted long enough to see steep clearances (not to mention terrible manufacturer distribution to brick-and-mortar) then Episode VII wasn't even as successful as Attack of the Clones. Say what we want about the quality of the Prequels but those toys absolutely dominated the market and sold like hotcakes with constant retailer refreshing and restocking to guarantee the newest figures, ships, vehicles and other merchandise was almost always on pegs and shelves.
You can't say that for the Star Wars retail brand since, oh, 2013.
You'd have a laugh at someone losing employment?
Given the franchise has been a massive success under her, I suspect any "voluntary move" she might make will be exactly that, most likely to avoid the personal abuse she's been getting and the embarrassingly infantile behaviour of a minority within the fanbase, as did George Lucas.
I do hope when she and others working in the franchise read the drivel we've seen they do at least realise how much the rest of us would love to distance ourselves from it and really appreciate the work they've done.
Do you understand what "toxic" means?
I don't know if he understands what "Star Wars" means.
Speaking of, I visited one of my local Toys R Us's today; all the boys' toys had been consolidtated to a single picked-over isle and everything was 70% to 90% off. They still had about a dozen Black Series Constible Zhuvios sitting around.
Yep. My store closes for good tomorrow (the 27th) and they still have dozens of the 6" Black Series Reys with Speeders on their consolidated clearance shelves of Star Wars merchandise. There was still a Constable Zuvio there the other day. And that doesn't include all the unsold toy lightsabers and 3.75" ships and vehicles that nobody wanted either at full price or 70% markdown.
I can't get my head around the hypocrisy of claiming you'll laugh at someone losing their job (despite having been such a massive success), then having the total lack of self awareness to actually call them "toxic"
It's righteous toxicity. You know, like #MAGA. Or the Britney Spears song.
Did she have a ridiculous inferiority complex shining through in everything she said too?
Sometimes she ran. Sometimes she hid.
Sometimes she was abused by the press and pathetic self entitled members of the public who think it's ok when someone is successful.
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