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Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

Is it?

  • Yes, that's the official word and it still fits

    Votes: 194 44.7%
  • Yes, but it's borderline at this point

    Votes: 44 10.1%
  • No, there's just too many inconsistencies

    Votes: 147 33.9%
  • I don't care about continuity, just the show's quality

    Votes: 49 11.3%

  • Total voters
    434
Star Trek continues did just that and was miles better than discovery!
Several productions have reproduced the look of the original Trek, including a couple of instances on the actual Trek shows themselves. All have been very well received by fans, very few of whom mocked them. But... the actual facts don't count, I guess.

And Discovery 'is' set in another universe or alternate reality that much is obvious!
JB
Indeed. But it's not so obvious that a Discovery fanboy will believe it.
 
The final episode of STC did reference DSC, there was a model of a Crossfield class, probably the Discovery herself, in the Admiral's office.
 
The original series uniforms, technology and ideology is too different from that of DSC! And yet we are told it is set ten years before Where No Man Has Gone Before? What happened then, did the Federation decide to go retro in the next few years and how can there have been contact with the Mirror Universe before TOS?
JB
 
Star Trek continues did just that and was miles better than Discovery! And Discovery 'is' set in another universe or alternate reality that much is obvious!
JB
STC worked well for what it was. It wasn't designed to revive a franchise, nor could it have. It was a beautiful love letter, and I'm grateful for the volunteer work that went into it.

The original series uniforms, technology and ideology is too different from that of DSC! And yet we are told it is set ten years before Where No Man Has Gone Before? What happened then, did the Federation decide to go retro in the next few years and how can there have been contact with the Mirror Universe before TOS?
JB
So TMP uniforms, used from 2270something till no later than 2278 make sense by that criteria? Only the crimson uniform apparently see very long duty. We don't know how long the Enterprise jumpsuits lasted as there is no way to know when they were first used, but some time after the Romulan war they were apparently phased out.

If you count the Kelvin Uniforms as part of prime, the DSC uniforms could have been in use any time after then until the time of Discovery, still giving them a longer lifespan than the TMP uniforms. Starfleet seems to change its uniforms out rapidly until the Monster Maroons come into effect.
 
Several productions have reproduced the look of the original Trek, including a couple of instances on the actual Trek shows themselves. All have been very well received by fans, very few of whom mocked them. But... the actual facts don't count, I guess.



Indeed. But it's not so obvious that a Discovery fanboy will believe it.

You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead! :lol:

Why couldn't there be? Everything was classified after they returned.

Even the MU Discovery went to was so much different to the one we saw Kirk and crew visit twelve years later! Their technology was equivalent to the TOS era and they were indeed an exact opposite of the UFP apart from the Tantalus field!
JB
 
Oh yes it was! Totally different! I've always had this feeling that the makers of modern Trek find the original series a little embarrassing and have tried for years to either ignore it or update it! That's why they created ENT to be more in line with a past time line of TNG and the other shows set in the same period!
JB
We'll have to agree to disagree then.

'Cause we'll be going in circles until the end of time.
 
STC wouldn't have been successful if it was a commercial TV show.
No, it would not have. It was too niche, and the furor over Pine as Kirk and Quinto as Spock in ST 09 was bad enough. But, actors stepping in and continuing those characters? Not going to go over well at all.
 
The original series uniforms, technology and ideology is too different from that of DSC! And yet we are told it is set ten years before Where No Man Has Gone Before? What happened then, did the Federation decide to go retro in the next few years...
Not that we need a retcon, but if one is so inclined, ever since ENT I've pictured the "retro" look of TOS to be the result of the final integration of all the major Federation member worlds various design styles into one. Clearly still an Earth-centric design in the broadstrokes, but incorporating Vulcan minimalism, Andorian let's say bright color schemes, Tellarite unease with touchscreens and electronic-only data storage (preferring printouts, maybe they had an EMP incident in their recent past), Denobulan whimsical furniture, etc. into one big fusion of styles.
 
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Star Trek Continues was a lot of fun, but it was a niche within a niche.

As far as DSC's visuals go, they went too far to plausibly call it the same world as TOS (can't wait to see the Klingons in the Picard series, if it ever happens), going several steps beyond adding Ultra-HD detail or whatnot. A new look is fine, but call it what it is: It's own version of Trek.
 
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