Yep. No different when the Kelvinverse films premiered either. Same exact highly predictable and tiresome behavior.
Alex Kurtzman Gets New Deal With CBS, Will Expand 'Star Trek' TV
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Yep. No different when the Kelvinverse films premiered either. Same exact highly predictable and tiresome behavior.
The movie is filled with idiotic nonsense.
Doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching it for the good it contains either.
That's not being a fanboy. That's being a normal human.
Yeah, totally. Anyone can enjoy the movie (I just didn't). Denying it has major issues is another deal altogether.
The movie is not as filled with idiotic nonsense as is believed
And, like you, I enjoy nonetheless.
So it's Burning Man?
Silkwood. Mamma Mia. Julia & Julia. Adaptation. A Cry In the Dark. Defending Your Life. And so, so many others!... You'll find your own favorites.
Interesting news. My instant reaction is they know Discovery is a failure that cannot be remedied (particularly if half of S2 is the same low-yield pap) and might not even see Season 3. Hence putting out news of a whole slew of new concepts, some of which may be a trial balloon to see how fans react.
Kurtzman's involvement doesn't bother me; somehow I don't think he was responsible for the worst decisions of the JJprise movies or certainly the DISC trainwreck.
Looking forward to what they come up with.
Kurtzman's involvement doesn't bother me; somehow I don't think he was responsible for the worst decisions of the JJprise movies or certainly the DISC trainwreck.
Looking forward to what they come up with.
Yes, because when something's a failure is when Hollywood tends to go all in on a franchise.
Dislike Discovery all you want but it's clearly considered a success by CBS.
This bit bothers me as well. It's not even just the length of time they'd known each other, but how Kirk actually is. Based on the events in the timeline, Kirk is not the same character he was in the original. I don't think Spock could have developed anywhere near as much respect for this Kirk based on his actions and character to date at he would for prime Kirk.
I'd think if they thought Discovery was a failure, why would they sign the guy involved in developing Discovery (the first person hired in the process of making the series, the one who found Fuller to develop it further) to continue to develop Star Trek for them.
But hey, what I do know: Literally nothing.
Yes, because when something's a failure is when Hollywood tends to go all in on a franchise.
Dislike Discovery all you want but it's clearly considered a success by CBS.
Evidence?
There are many reasons to go all-in on Trek that have nothing to with DISC. In fact, one would be to make sure that other projects are in the hopper if/when DISC fails.
If all is going swimmingly with DISC, why the Harberts/Berg firings? I don't think Kurtzman's had much to do with the show, and in fact I think that's part of his appeal!
There's no evidence. Only CBS knows whether or not Discovery is performing to their expectations.
With the same guy in charge? You're reaching a bit here to spin this as an indicator of failure.
Kurtzmann's company produces Discovery. He hasn't had a lot involved creatively or the day-to-day, but the expansion of his role indicates faith in him as a producer, which suggests faith in the product he produced. After all he probably won't be involved as a showrunner on any of the four new shows - the Starfleet Academy one even has a named team who are developing it.
(Obviously, there isn't similar faith in the Discovery showrunners; but for all the chaos behind the scenes, the show was, from what I've read, widely streamed show.)
As I said before, CBS indicated before Discovery premiered that regardless of the success or failure of Discovery, they were planning to make more Trek content. Thus I don't think we can conclude anything about the success or failure of DIS by CBS's own internal metrics. I do think the likely significant dropoff in All Access subscriptions as soon as DIS was over made them conclude they needed MOAR TREK as soon as possible though.
I can't figure out whether Kurtzman is some figurehead with no creative control or the prime architect of Discovery. Oh, well. I hope it gets better and these new shows are good.
Obviously I have no personal knowledge of the situation, but rumor has it that Harberts and Berg were douche bags to the rest of the writers/staff and when word finally got back to the PTB they canned them for it.
. Might not be the whole story, but it makes sense as far as it goes (similar rumors persist about some of the early TNG BTS staffers).
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