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Boring headbutting alien viking land?
Only the one that first comes to my mind is canon![]()
Kronos is the pronunciation, Qo'noS is the spelling.Kronos.
In a lot of the written material. Or Kling, or about 5 other names.
Kronos is the pronunciation, Qo'noS is the spelling.
I see. So various older novels and comics, "Kling" is somehow pronounced from those?
Also, the NX-01's readouts or something from the pilot have that in a display as a homage to them.
That star was a real cling on!Kling might be the name of the Star.
I don't recall Kling appearing anywhere in ENT.
Kling might be the name of the Star.
I don't recall Kling appearing anywhere in ENT.
Only places I remember Kling appearing is in Undiscovered Country and DSC's starcharts.
KORRIS: Brother, I knew you would come. (Worf climbs the ladder) Now I, we have a chance. I could not do it alone, but I would rather die here, than let the traitors of Kling pick the meat from my bones. With you it will work.
Strawman much?Discovery was an instantly available target for the ire of every TOS fandamentalist and 24th-century-or-bust stalwart that had soured over years of not getting things exactly their way. They inhabit an echo chamber that gives them support and causes them to assume that their umwelt is in fact some universal truth. There was and is absolutely nothing that show runners can do to break through that level of toxicity... You can't win with those people.
Eek! Please say that you're just joking around and you have in fact seen some of her movies before!...It's why I want to watch some Meryl Streep movies...
Succinctly put. The setting isn't just some arbitrary optional thing unrelated to story content (or at least, it shouldn't be).why choose to have a prequel, why choose to set it in a specific time frame if you don't intend to exploit the setting either to address specific historical events, include historical characters, or take advantage of the "mood" of that timeframe?
Hear, hear!I think consistency has a lot to due with quality Star Trek. You need consistency within a series so that your characters behave in ways that are consistent for their character (see criticism for Janeway's uneven characterization). You need consistency in terms of technology and capabilities, so that you don't accidentally remove all drama by having random abilities and inconsistent results (see complaints about "teching the tech" for solutions to some TNG/VOY problems). You need consistency across seasons and series so that villains, political and social settings aren't simply bent to the needs of the plot. Consistency has tons to do with quality - and a lot of that consistency has to do with at least not significantly violating continuity.
Sto'Vo'Kor is just Valhalla with more eviscerations and fewer blondes.Boring headbutting alien viking land?
I mean most of this is obvious, or explained in the movie, or better explained in the last 5 years of fans going to the lengths to do so...
A thought occurs to me. Currently, this is a very reactionary, knee-jerk, society that we live in, with opinions being able to be shared without much thought. So, if something is not what is felt to be right, then those emotions can be expressed with no thought to the consequences.Perfectly said. Discovery was an instantly available target for the ire of every TOS fandamentalist and 24th-century-or-bust stalwart that had soured over years of not getting things exactly their way. They inhabit an echo chamber that gives them support and causes them to assume that their umwelt is in fact some universal truth. There was and is absolutely nothing that show runners can do to break through that level of toxicity except to bulldoze over it and embrace new viewers and keep providing a good show for the existing fans.
You can't win with those people. If you cater to them you're accused of fanwank. If you chart your own course you're accused of apostasy against St Gene. If you make the barest most subtlest of hints you're bringing an old cast member back you're instantly told your project is doomed. If you get your show renewed, you'll be told you're not getting renewed again.
Speaking of which, check out the Amazon series of The Man in the High Castle if you haven't. It's awesome!
21st century: Lily Sloane's Era24th-1/2 - Duck Dodgers era
Eek! Please say that you're just joking around and you have in fact seen some of her movies before!
This gets back to my hatred of the spore drive. Not just as a concept, but as execution.
We have access to a magic drive which allows us to go anywhere in space, anywhere in time, and to any alternate universe. The story possibilities are endless!
What do we do? Use it as a weapon of war, then accidentally jump to the MU, then accidently jump four months in the future. Finally, the Federation says it's just too dangerous and shelves it.
I have to assume this is sarcasm.Sure. Right. Totally.
I don't think they're done with the Spore Drive yet. Speculation on my part, of course.
If I'm wrong... I'll force myself to re-watch the entirety of Enterprise. That's how sure I am.
[In my best Leonard McCoy voice] "Damn it, man! Are you out of your mind? Nobody could survive long-term exposure like that!"If I'm wrong... I'll force myself to re-watch the entirety of Enterprise. That's how sure I am.
They are def not done with the spore drive. One of the producers said they would still deal with its existence and aligning with canon.
I have to assume this is sarcasm.
But yeah, you offer a splendid distillation of the pointless nerdrage nitpicking that passes for criticism of this movie, ignoring its heart, its humor, its moral themes, its immersive imagery, the uncanny ability of its marvelous actors to make beloved characters feel both warmly nostalgic and vividly rediscovered, and everything else about it that makes it the best and most satisfying Star Trek cinematic experience in decades.
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