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Spoilers Star Wars: Solo - Grading and Discussion Thread

What would you rate it?

  • A+

    Votes: 7 4.5%
  • A

    Votes: 25 16.1%
  • A-

    Votes: 28 18.1%
  • B+

    Votes: 38 24.5%
  • B

    Votes: 24 15.5%
  • C

    Votes: 18 11.6%
  • D

    Votes: 12 7.7%
  • F

    Votes: 3 1.9%

  • Total voters
    155
to show Rey's parents,
Rey's parents were nobody low-lifes who drank themselves to death. I'm not really sure what there is here to build a two hour movie around.
I get the feeling they're going to expand Darth Maul's role to the Boba Fett movie and then perhaps lead to a showdown in the Obi-Wan movie.
A showdown between Darth Maul and Obi-Wan has already been handled in Rebels.
 
Did you forget I mentioned Rogue One, Solo, and upcoming projects? And children's cartoons? That's ignorant.

Your right, I did ignore it but I guess I be a little more specific. I'm not talking about the super fans here, just the average movie-going public; And they don't care about cartoons, comics, novels, trading cards, Holiday specials, Ewok adventures and apparently Star Wars stories. They care about only three things: Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher... Uh oh.
 
Your right, I did ignore it but I guess I be a little more specific. I'm not talking about the super fans here, just the average movie-going public; And they don't care about cartoons, comics, novels, trading cards, Holiday specials, Ewok adventures and apparently Star Wars stories. They care about only three things: Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher... Uh oh.
Who besides "superfans" even cares what happened between Episodes VI and VII, at least enough to see it on screen?

We didn't need those backstories in Episodes IV, V and VI, we knew twenty years in advance that we would get all that in Episodes I, II and III.
These are Episodes VII, VIII and IX, it's too late now; There's no more room left.
 
I liked the movie. Very fun. I think while Rogue One did well being the first side film, I think that them having no connections to the current narrative may hurt them at the box office.
 
Your right, I did ignore it but I guess I be a little more specific. I'm not talking about the super fans here, just the average movie-going public; And they don't care about cartoons, comics, novels, trading cards, Holiday specials, Ewok adventures and apparently Star Wars stories. They care about only three things: Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher... Uh oh.

Ya know, my wife, who never really enjoyed Star Wars until she met me, is not watching or reading any of that stuff. But she does go to the movies with me. And she, frankly, has enjoyed Ridley, Boyega, Isaac, Driver, Jones, Luna, Tran, Ehrenreich, Glover, Clarke and Harrelson. And I know others who aren’t big Star Wars fans who feel the same way.

Anecdotal, sure. But so is your statement.
 
A showdown between Darth Maul and Obi-Wan has already been handled in Rebels.

Yes it was. But I would be willing to bet money that Disney won't let that stand in the way of an epic rematch between Ewan McGregor and Ray Park. I believe that's exactly why they reintroduced him to the movies.

Obi-Wan!!! You should have aimed for the head.
 
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Yes it was. But I would be willing to bet money that Disney won't let that stand in the way of an epic rematch between Ewan McGregor and Ray Park. I believe that's exactly why they reintroduced him to the movies.
The decision to bring Darth Maul into the movie was Ron Howard's. The script only identified the character as "Boss" and Disney provided Howard a list of characters from Star Wars canon he could choose to make Boss be. He liked Darth Maul, and when he showed the list to his son, his son also chose Darth Maul, so that's why we got him in the movie.
 
Of course it's anecdotal. But time and Box Office will bear out it's accuracy.

Yes it will. Look, I'm sure that yes, there are fans and regular Joes out there who are pissed about TLJ. I have no doubt in my mind that is true. I put a lot of the Solo box office woes on the six months between TLJ and Solo, not the quality of either movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, "Marvel does it and it works." Marvel also has 80 years of history across multiple titles and a huge amount of backstory to cull from. The general moviegoing public can go and see a Captain America movie or an Iron Man movie or a Black Panther movie or a Captain Marvel movie. There's a lot of options and they're milking them for all its worth.

But with Star Wars, prior to Disney, you had six movies and some books and comic books (that are being drawn from, BTW). But the average movie goer may not go see a movie about Ulic Qel-Droma or Nomi Sunrider. There has to be a connection for the audience, at least at first. You had Han, Luke and Leia in TFA and TLJ passing the torch to a new generation. You had a ton of nostalgia pushing Rogue One.

For Solo, while its enjoyable, is it possible that perhaps it wasn't the movie people wanted to see? Is it possible that people have really connected to Harrison Ford as Han Solo and that someone coming in and playing that role, no matter who is was, just wasn't going to fill the seats? I liked Solo but that does not mean I don't think it was an ill-conceived maneuver for LFL. I never liked the idea. I figured it'd be fun and entertaining, but I always thought it would be a lesser work. And while, again, I think that yes, people did not like TLJ, I bet its far fewer than you actually believe.

But, again, we will wait until December 2019 to see for sure. I could be wrong. But again, if the brand can survive Attack of the Clones? I think it can survive just about anything.
 
Who besides "superfans" even cares what happened between Episodes VI and VII, at least enough to see it on screen?

I would say casual fans do. Like everyone else they probably took it all on faith that it would all be revealed as the trilogy unfolded. That was until Johnson killed literally every plot thread dead in their tracks to make way for what he felt Star Wars should be.
I'm done arguing this for now. Whatever else, there's no arguing that the last jedi will be remembered as the turning point.
 
JD said:
Even decanonizing just the Maul storyline would be hard, since it weaves it's way through a season and a half-ish of the shows.

The whole storyline starts in S3 of TCW and continues in TCW S4 and S5, then picks up after Solo in S2 and S3 of Rebels.
 
Getting tickled by a lightsaber, swooning into the arms of the person who cut you in half, without a single scratch and dying dramatically isn't that much of a showdown.

It is very samurai film inspired though. Two old masters don't fight for half an hour, they size each other up, make some stance changes and make the fight take three moves.

However I could see them putting that part into a Kenobi movie, as one of the things than happen to Old Ben during his time in the desert. They could do a little build up from Kenobi's point of view, since that's the one view point we really didn't get much of during that episode.
 
Even in 1983 I would have been only mildly interested in a Han Solo movie. Ford's charisma apart, there was not much there there.
 
^You're right......

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Rey's parents were nobody low-lifes who drank themselves to death. I'm not really sure what there is here to build a two hour movie around.

Pretty much. Apart from a tragedy or after school very special episode. But like many, I never cared about Luke's parents either. And they got not one but three movies to gripe about sand getting into their buttcracks.

A showdown between Darth Maul and Obi-Wan has already been handled in Rebels.

Decanonize that and porting that to the big screen, assuming the franchise is still alive as "Solo" has plummeted 65% in raking money since last week. There was no question that prompted the need to show Han's young life, especially when it's padding (apparently rather badly) 30 seconds worth of on-screen dialogue from the OT. This isn't a' "Star Wars" thing, a spinoff revolving around "Spock" would likely be just as awful.

^You're right......

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They go great with some wine ;)


It gets better. Loocashcow Film made a movie about "Porg: A Star Wars Story", and here's the footage - fresh from the cutting room floor!

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(yes, that was a real deleted scene from "The Last Jedi". What happened when Luke carelessly tossed his lightsaber away.)

There's also a very special romance scene cut from the same movie, found it elsewhere online (animated GIF, takes a moment to fully load):
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(source: http://www.porghub.net/index.html, I didn't come up with that :D )
 
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