Someone, someday, will explain to me how Star Wars is destroyed.
"5 Reasons Kathleen Kennedy Needs To Step Down From Lucasfilm" By John Campea
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Solo having a May release date isn't necessarily her decision. Remember, both she and JJ Abrams desperately wanted to push The Force Awakens from December 2015 to May 2016 in order to get more post-production time, and Bob Iger personally vetoed them (because he wanted TFA to hit in that specific fiscal quarter for Disney).
Seems legitimate.
All I’ve seen is crybabies on YouTube, all complaining about Rey being a Mary Sue or how Kennedy ruined Star Wars and never being able to explain how without dragging out a bunch of shit about SJWs, female empowerment and other shit that upsets their fragile egos.
But if you want to just ignore that, more power to you I guess. It hasn’t ruined my enjoyment of the movies, I just no longer like talking to fans about it.
Well, to be fair, 3 years elapsed between SW and ESB. It is presumed during this time that Luke was doing what he could in terms of training but not getting very far- at the beginning of ESB he was lucky to get his lightsaber back in hand before the Wampa ate him. Then he goes to Yoda, and we're never really sure how long he spent on Dagobah, because we don't really know how long it took the Falcon to get to Bespin without a hyperdrive. In my head I've always imagined that Luke spent several weeks on Dagobah at a minimum, but there's no canon answer I know of. Long enough for he and Yoda to get frustrated with one another, obviously.
Rey never gets any formal training at all in TFA, yet she can do the mind-trick all on her own, wins a lightsaber tug-o-war with Kylo Ren and pretty effortlessly kicks his ass. Luke never really trains her either- not the way we saw Yoda train him- yet by the end of the movie she is moving an avalanche load of rocks without breaking a sweat. It's a serious weak point in the non-plot of the new movies.
Yeah but that training was still based on a couple of hours spent with Obi Wan on the falcon. Considering most Jedi/Sith literally spent their lives in dedicated tutelage and he became one of the most powerful of all time that's like giving someone two lessons in karate and leaving them alone for three years during which they have a full time occupation, then topping it up with a refresher session before they go win the world title. But no one really flags this up anywhere near as much as they do Rey because, well, she's a girl.
No, it isn't a serious weak point in the slightest.
One of the plot points in both TFA and TLJ is that people around the galaxy, including Rey, hear and have heard the legends of the accomplishments of Luke Skywalker, the Jedi, and the other heroes of the Resistance, Rebellion, and Old Republic. Rey's a natural to be sure, but we also know that one of Luke's problems in his ability to use the Force was in failing to believe that feats, such as levitating his X-wing out of the swamp, were even possible. Rey gets a leg up there, because she already believes these things are possible. She's heard the legends, and Han Solo has recently told her that it's all true.
We also know from earlier in the film at Maz's, before the final duel, that Luke's and Anakin's lightsaber was calling to her. For some reason, I can't quite put it together why, we might have reason to believe that the Force itself was awakening and channeling itself through her. We might even have reason to suspect that she's actually a new chosen one.
So, yeah, gotta disagree with you there, completely.
Rey is just Luke with different self-doubts.
I wasn't aware MaRey Sue had any self doubts.
Maybe you should pay attention to the movies then.
Ummm, yeah?
And what exactly did she doubt?
That she would ever want to pick up a lightsaber again that gave her some crazy ass flashback that still doesn't make complete sense? She got over that quickly enough.
Other than that, I thought she was very decisive in racing off to adventure; Reserving her doubts more or less for other people like the strength of an enemy, the wisdom of a Jedi and the love of her parents.
Okay, screw her parents.
That she would ever want to pick up a lightsaber again that gave her some crazy ass flashback that still doesn't make complete sense? She got over that quickly enough.
Other than that, I thought she was very decisive in racing off to adventure; Reserving her doubts more or less for other people like the strength of an enemy, the wisdom of a Jedi and the love of her parents.
Okay, screw her parents.
That sounds like a personal problem to me. The movie made it pretty clear.
So, doubts then
Yes. Because I'm the only person on the entire internet that thinks that by the end of the last jedi she had completely evolved into Little Miss Perfect. I see no reason to make it personal.
Absolutely. But the subject was self-doubt, not doubt in others.
It's almost like you didn't watch the films, just read a transcript.
Daisy plays her riddled with self doubt, those things are played as manifestations of that self doubt, of her having no sense of place or identity