Oh she did, but she wasn't a Mary Sue, far from it. Nor is Michael Burnham, or Rey.
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Oh she did, but she wasn't a Mary Sue, far from it. Nor is Michael Burnham, or Rey.
If Alien was made now, it would cause a panic among fanboys.
Like how Luke was a Jedi after running around the swamp with Yoda and failing every test until getting his ass kicked by Vader, escaped an exploding Death Star, blew up the previous Death Star, disagreed with everything Obi-Wan and Yoda told him and flew X-Wings like a pro and handled the Falcon’s turrents like a pro. Oh wait, he had a penis so it’s okay.
I do agree about Leia, but that’s been a problem since 1977. She’s basically the team mom now. She deserved better and no one has ever given her much to work with.
Well the third movie hasn’t come out yet, so it’s hard to know the future.
Oh, I think there were many male forerunners. The film may have redefined the sci fi and horror genres, but the idea of the competent working class hero fighting for their life against the odds was hardly new surely?
It was a different time too. I think she’d get the same complaints now that any other female character gets. We’ve regressed as a society.
I love Sigourney too. I was watching Ghost Busters (new one) last week and I think that little cameo at the end gave me the biggest thrill
It would certainly be taken as being a far more politically loaded vehicle than it was at the time, yeah.
1 Luke did not kill Darth Vader, I really shouldn't continue, but what the hell..
2 The torpedo thing is probably Jedi 101. And Obi-Wan thought he could do it.
3 I didn't count. Was it hundreds? At a Time?
4 Yeah, they have a funny way of promoting people who blow up the Deathstar.
5 Boba Fett? Yeah, sorry Han killed first.
6 Again, didn't count but I really want to give you this one.
I however do respect your viewpoint and have nothing but the appropriate amount of appreciation for all the time and thought that went into your reply.
Okay, I just saw that gender remark. Screw you. Sarah Conner, Ripley, Leia, these are some of my heroes. It's bad writing, simple as that. Keep that gender biased shit to yourself , I've never said anything of the kind and though I can be a bit of an ass, I will not be slandered and That will not stand.
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It’s a movie about rape, male rape mostly. The alien is a terrifying walking phallic symbol doing awful thing is mostly men. Lambert actually got it worse than the others based on deleted scenes. So it would be seen as political now without any changes.
1) No, he didn't deliver the coup de grace, that doesn't change the fact Vader died as a consequence of the beating Luke gave him. To attribute that to the force lighting is to ignore the fact Luke endured more and in a more focused manner without great lasting harm. Before lifting The Emperor Vader was already in a very bad way. In either case, though, he still convincingly beat one of the most powerful Sith ever known.
2) Probably Jedi 101? You count that as simple but complain about Rey being overly competent with a turret?
3) By your logic he should still have been effectively a farm hand who couldn't handle a single one, that or accept that Rey (whose lifestyle gave her far more reason to have developed combat skills) was entirely in fitting with the precedent set.
4) Yeah, he blew up the Death Star. How did he do it again?
5) I didn't say killed, I said defeated. He did, rewatch the scene. Bobba wraps Luke up in cable, Luke escapes and puts him down doing so before jumping over to the other boat to help his friends. Bobba tries to shoot him and Luke chops the gun out of his hand, Bobba tries to burn him with a flamethrower, fails and escapes.
Yet they become posters on a board devoted to one of the most overtly political sci fi shows ever made?
Why would you feel somehow making it now would be a political act?
I'm trying here, okay?
Perhaps your laboring under the false impression that I am somehow a misogynist, I am not, see my previous post.
After The Force Awakens, I thought Rey was an exciting character with a lot of potential and couldn't wait to see what she would do next. Like I said, this is only about the last jedi. I love women.
And instead of spending half the movie in the fridge, maybe Leia could have stood beside her brother, her real in the flesh brother and helped give her son a good spanking. Or at the very least, she could have been the one to lift the boulders.
It shouldn't come as any surprise though. Johnson had no clue how to use Luke; Why the hell should he know how to use Leia?
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Key difference is Luke does this over a period of a few years. Rey runs the gamut in a few *days*. TLJ was set immediately after TFA. But again, I only felt she was only slightly “perfect” in TFA; TLJ Rey is fantastic.
If they made it today, the Android would win.
No, it happens over a few days, the fact that there was a several year gap in between some of those days just means we don't know what happened in the meantime. It's possible he did nothing whatsoever and just played board games with Chewbacca, he may have saved the galaxy hundreds of times over, we just don't know. It doesn't matter, however, because the achievements we do know about only occur over much the same time span as Rey's, are far more impressive and required less training, yet she is the character called out as being unrealistically powerful.
We do quite a bit of what happened between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back thanks to Marvel's comics. The only thing close to training we've seen him do is read bit and pieces of a journal he recovered from Obi-Wan's house on Tatooine.
I love Rey, and I've never been bothered in the slightest by all of the stuff we've seen her do.
I love Rey, and I've never been bothered in the slightest by all of the stuff we've seen her do.
@Ensign Ricky Stop trying to overstate the size of the "Rey is a Mary Sue" contingent of "fanboys"; all you're doing is embarrassing yourself.
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