Why didn't Starfleet dismantle holodecks on all starships after.....

[The Wormhole]

But he was a commanding officer, could anyone else have done the same?

On Voyager, Seven of Nine only needs to verbally request safeties be disabled and they are like in the episode Night where she did so to turn Captain Proton's ray gun into an actual weapon capable of incapacitating actual alien intruders who boarded the ship. If a civilian with no rank can successfully request holodeck safeties be disabled, thus turning holographic weapons real, anyone can.

 

[BillJ]

On Voyager, Seven of Nine only needs to verbally request safeties be disabled and they are like in the episode Night where she did so to turn Captain Proton's ray gun into an actual weapon capable of incapacitating actual alien intruders who boarded the ship. If a civilian with no rank can successfully request holodeck safeties be disabled, thus turning holographic weapons real, anyone can.

I'm guessing it depends on your security clearance. For some reason, the former Borg drone had a high security clearance.

Though I do remember in "Descent, Part I", Data needed a second authorization to turn up the strength of the Borg drone he was fighting.

 

[The Wormhole]

One of the stupidest things done with holodeck safeties was in Voyager's Spirit Folk. In the episode, Tom Paris and Harry Kim are on the holodeck, messing around with an exposed computer terminal while the program is running. A mob of holographic villagers shows up, and one of them fires a rifle which damages the computer. After this, the computer warns that safeties have been disabled. Which means that while safeties were active, a holographic bullet somehow damaged actual components of the holodeck.

Some people over the years have attempted to explain this as the holodeck safeties just protect people from being injured, they don't prevent equipment from being damaged. Unfortunately, this means the device which is meant to protect holodeck users from harm in the simulation is itself capable of being damaged by the simulation, which is a very shocking oversight when you think about it.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

If you found out your favorite thing to do for fun had a small chance of becoming dangerous, would you really give it up?

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Everyone else in Starfleet were dumb and just using the thing for fucking.

Holodecks were probably invented by pornhub

 

[Shawnster]

If you found out your favorite thing to do for fun had a small chance of becoming dangerous, would you really give it up?

We aren't talking about the user willingly giving it up. We're talking about the government making it illegal.

Like Jarts (lawn darts) or those old toys from the 70s that shot projectiles kids could swallow (Colonial Viper, Cylon Raider)

 

[F. King Daniel]

We aren't talking about the user willingly giving it up. We're talking about the government making it illegal.

Like Jarts (lawn darts) or those old toys from the 70s that shot projectiles kids could swallow (Colonial Viper, Cylon Raider)

Or the Starship Enterprise...

 

[JirinPanthosa]

We aren't talking about the user willingly giving it up. We're talking about the government making it illegal.

Like Jarts (lawn darts) or those old toys from the 70s that shot projectiles kids could swallow (Colonial Viper, Cylon Raider)

We’re not talking about kids toys, we’re talking about something adults do for pleasure. Have you seen what happens when governments illegalize things that give adults pleasure?

 

[Shawnster]

And having the drug illegal was a point of the Ellison story element, Admiral Panthosa.

 

[Mage]

Why aren't humans right now dismanteling all nuclear weapons if we know they're so deadly??

Oh right, we're stupid fucktards, never mind.....

 

[The Wormhole]

Have you seen what happens when governments illegalize things that give adults pleasure?

Half the shit that is pleasurable for adults is illegal.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Half the shit that is pleasurable for adults is illegal.

Yeah, and how does that work out for everyone? It creates organized crime, doubles the amount of people who want to do the illegal stuff, increases the level of violent crime and wastes billions of dollars on enforcement.

Illegalize holodecks, you're just giving billions of latinum to illegal Ferengi holosuites.

 

[thribs]

Everyone else in Starfleet were dumb and just using the thing for fucking.

That's certainly what Tuvok used it for.

 

[Galileo7]

Everyone else in Starfleet were dumb and just using the thing for fucking.

Logical.

 

[Steven P Bastien]

The holodeck might explain the need for counselors on a ship. That shit can mess you up.

 

[The Wormhole]

That's certainly what Tuvok used it for.

He had a doctor's note. Well, medical corpsman's note. Close enough.

 

[Timo]

Soldiers out in the field dabble in potentially harmful hardware? What were the writers thinking?

The only reason anybody in the Federation agrees to work for Starfleet seems to be adrenaline rush. If people insane enough to enlist were deprived of holodecks, we would no doubt see many more phaser duels to the death.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Tim Thomason]

The only reason anybody in the Federation agrees to work for Starfleet seems to be adrenaline rush.

Well, that and to escape the rape gangs.

 

[Timo]

Dunno. By the time Yar was of age to enroll, Turkana IV seemed to have adopted the Cadre system which put an end to the gangs (while Starfleet never did). Yar left for reasons, but stayed out and joined Starfleet for snobbery (and adrenaline rush and death wish as usual).

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Prax]

Did someone say rape gangs? You definitely have to watch out for those.