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Who should become the next Doctor after Whittaker?

If you actually believe that, it certainly explains most of your posts. I have no more trouble relating to female characters than I do male characters. After all, there are certain universal traits inherent to all human beings, regardless their gender.


I'll let that slight go by the way side, because for the most part I agree with you on allot, and have liked much of your posts, in here and in the STD/DISCO Forums. But I have to beg to differ on a few points.. the purpose of TV is to inform, entertain, and in some cases make social arguments, and so on. But it's no secret that when some males and females watch a program they want to escape, and identify with the same gender, and see themselves in that role. A vicarious adventure, why else would anyone watch TV, they would go do things that excite them on their own if they weren't able to identify with the protagonist in a series. Vicarious attachment to a particular role whether female or male is a healthy part of life, and imagination. It inspires people and gives them a sense of fantasy to play out their own ambitions. Young children are especially drawn to role models especially ones they can identify with. I strongly admired William Shatner as Captain Kirk growing up on Trek Reruns when we moved to the states as a boy. While I watched and loved shows that had female leads in them, I felt more attracted to roles that I felt were great role models for me as a man, even trying to emulate Kirk and be strong minded and fair and just as he was. Same too can be said for women and their experiences. There's nothing wrong with that..IMHO
 
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That is a load of nonsense.

Out of the seven shows currently in production I watch, four have female leads, including Doctor Who. Also, six movies I have seen in theatres in the past year have had female leads.

Alot of it might depend on the type of show and the nature of the characters. Are you telling me women might not have more of a connection to the thoughts and feelings in a show like "The Handmaid's Tale" than men? On the other hand you could stick a male or female or any race in charge of a "CSI" show I don't think it would matter at all. That's not to say people can't emphasis with the characters because people aren't usually monsters who can't feel for other people. It just means I think a women's perspective on that show might be different than a male's even if both people like the show which is very possible. The idea that people can't enjoy shows they don't fully relate to exactly to the feelings and life experiences they deal with is hogwash. It just means people get something different out of the experiences. But that isn't even really always a gender thing. I live in Oklahoma and some guy living in New York are not exactly going to have the same life experiences. Hell I could say that about guys living on my same bloch. Same things are universal but not everything. Maybe someday some things that aren't universal will become more so with a more fair society if that ever happens but even then I bet their will still be some things that are still seen as something more dealing with male perspective and things dealing more from a female perspective.

Jason
 
Are you telling me women might not have more of a connection to the thoughts and feelings in a show like "The Handmaid's Tale" than men?
I haven't watched the show (it doesn't really interest me) but there do seem to be a number of male posters on this very forum who seem to think very highly of it.
 
I haven't watched the show (it doesn't really interest me) but there do seem to be a number of male posters on this very forum who seem to think very highly of it.

I think it's a horrible dystopian fantasy, and I don't agree with it's themes. It's sickening to think that women would be used in that way, and only someone with an affinity for the program or an axe to grind against Men would enjoy such rubbish, at least that is how I feel about it. Just like I feel for the victims of Cosby, and I could care less about his guilty verdict and fall from grace. women are people, not some play thing for anyone who has power and fame, and a false good persona based on a TV role who exploit that to their advantage and take advantage of women for carnal pleasure against their will. Both subjects are abhorrent to me as a human being.
 
I haven't watched the show (it doesn't really interest me) but there do seem to be a number of male posters on this very forum who seem to think very highly of it.

I'm one of them. It's a pretty great show but very dark and very depressing. Not something you want to put on if you want some escapism that night. Because of my love for comedy though I do tend to gravitate more to comedy stuff whether they have a more female or male perspective. I freaking loved "30 Rock" and "Veep" and also getting into "Glow" right now and "UNbreakable Kimmy Schmidt" It takes great skill to make a crazy rapist preacher cult guy very funny. In fact the subject matter you would think would no lend to humor but to me it just reinforces my belief you can get humor out of any situation not matter how dark the subject matter is.

Jason
 
I think it's a horrible dystopian fantasy, and I don't agree with it's themes. It's sickening to think that women would be used in that way, and only someone with an affinity for the program or an axe to grind against Men would enjoy such rubbish, at least that is how I feel about it. Just like I feel for the victims of Cosby, and I could care less about his guilty verdict and fall from grace. women are people, not some play thing for anyone who has power and fame, and a false good persona based on a TV role who exploit that to their advantage and take advantage of women for carnal pleasure against their will. Both subjects are abhorrent to me as a human being.

I like it I wouldn't say I have a axe to grind against men. In fact I have enjoyed many shows over the years that are very opposite of this kind of show 'Entrouge" ""Mad Men" "The Punisher" and so forth. In fact I am kind of proud that I think I can enjoy of enough variety of tastes to enjoy something like "Entrouge" which is really just one big teenage boy fantasy and something like "Handmaden's Tale." I think this stuff actually helps when it comes to things like tolerance and being open minded. I like most guys have some macho type feelings at times but I like to think their is more to me than just that and people are capable of a vast array of complex emotions that even sometimes contradict each other.

Jason
 
I like it I wouldn't say I have a axe to grind against men. In fact I have enjoyed many shows over the years that are very opposite of this kind of show 'Entrouge" ""Mad Men" "The Punisher" and so forth. In fact I am kind of proud that I think I can enjoy of enough variety of tastes to enjoy something like "Entrouge" which is really just one big teenage boy fantasy and something like "Handmaden's Tale." I think this stuff actually helps when it comes to things like tolerance and being open minded. I like most guys have some macho type feelings at times but I like to think their is more to me than just that and people are capable of a vast array of complex emotions that even sometimes contradict each other.

Jason

Well they are, and all of that is true. I don't think that all people who watch such shows are degenerate, but for me, personal preference is that I prefer light, funny, action, romance, and uplifting views of the future. A future I would want to be a part of, again, vicarious enjoyment is what I enjoy the most. Can I see myself in that position? Could I see myself wanting to live in that world? Would I do the same or make the same choices as that hero? so on and so forth. I can definitely say, outside Kirk, I heavily identified with Lister From RED Dwarf.. Especially the first few seasons.. Having spent allot of time alone as a kid to myself, mostly. I have younger brothers, but they tended to be closer in age and interests then me. I was a geek. I have a Documented IQ of 221 and dealt with a complex that arrived from knowing that fact and being treated differently because of it. Believe it or not, sometimes having a Documented genius IQ is not fun, nor is it something you are able to handle in an EGO sense. Sometimes much of my problem stemmed from a level of arrogance derived from it. Sometimes a bit of withdrawal happened because of it too. taking solace and sanctuary in a good Science Fiction series was comforting and made me feel better. But when political meandering and misandry started coming to the forefront ( yes I acknowledge it is always there, but in todays terms, the art of subtlety is lost) my escape into fantasy started to become uncomfortable. I don't mind change, but it should be gradual and organic and not In YOUR FACE and insult your intelligence along the way. I was comforted in my imagination, and the vicarious escapism that came with watching Good SCIFI and having good male role models to aspire to be like. Some may not like this fact, but there is a loss for boys with a new generation who will not have that come this new 3 year stint if it runs that long.. As far as representation, a good case for parody can be made, sure, and has. But in terms of Role models for boys, for the time being at least, there will be no TARDIS pilot that has that draw like the Doctor once did.. it will be up to the companions.. But I can't identify with one of them because he's a bit old for my taste.. Ageism is kind of a bit of an issue with me, unless the character is one I can see myself in the distant future becoming or see being more like me personality wise.
 
Well they are, and all of that is true. I don't think that all people who watch such shows are degenerate, but for me, personal preference is that I prefer light, funny, action, romance, and uplifting views of the future. A future I would want to be a part of, again, vicarious enjoyment is what I enjoy the most. Can I see myself in that position? Could I see myself wanting to live in that world? Would I do the same or make the same choices as that hero? so on and so forth. I can definitely say, outside Kirk, I heavily identified with Lister From RED Dwarf.. Especially the first few seasons.. Having spent allot of time alone as a kid to myself, mostly. I have younger brothers, but they tended to be closer in age and interests then me. I was a geek. I have a Documented IQ of 221 and dealt with a complex that arrived from knowing that fact and being treated differently because of it. Believe it or not, sometimes having a Documented genius IQ is not fun, nor is it something you are able to handle in an EGO sense. Sometimes much of my problem stemmed from a level of arrogance derived from it. Sometimes a bit of withdrawal happened because of it too. taking solace and sanctuary in a good Science Fiction series was comforting and made me feel better. But when political meandering and misandry started coming to the forefront ( yes I acknowledge it is always there, but in todays terms, the art of subtlety is lost) my escape into fantasy started to become uncomfortable. I don't mind change, but it should be gradual and organic and not In YOUR FACE and insult your intelligence along the way. I was comforted in my imagination, and the vicarious escapism that came with watching Good SCIFI and having good male role models to aspire to be like. Some may not like this fact, but there is a loss for boys with a new generation who will not have that come this new 3 year stint if it runs that long.. As far as representation, a good case for parody can be made, sure, and has. But in terms of Role models for boys, for the time being at least, there will be no TARDIS pilot that has that draw like the Doctor once did.. it will be up to the companions.. But I can't identify with one of them because he's a bit old for my taste.. Ageism is kind of a bit of an issue with me, unless the character is one I can see myself in the distant future becoming or see being more like me personality wise.
Interesting insights.

Well, you may struggle with adjusting to the concept of not having a role model like yourself, given The Doctor is female and the age of one of the companions is not in a demographic you can relate to. There is something comforting and dare I say it, validating seeing reflections of ourselves succeeding. I have a love for really quaint whodunnit mystery stories. I don't really see the sleuths as role models though - I am neither a Poirot or Miss Marple BUT I am kind of loyal to these fictional characters being as I have loved them. (Like in the remake preview of Murder on the Orient Express - 2017, that blessed moustache on Poirot is insane!)

It's a bit of a challenge, as much as imagining possibilities sometimes we are more comfortable with the tried and true. I find with most of the Doctors I like them the most when they decide to leave or regenerate. Yet as a female it was nice seeing a male as a role model for men, too. Obviously not to emulate but to see a decent bloke/Timelord. As much as male representation has been traditionally established it has not always been of notable 'role model' worthiness. I repeat from earlier there is nothing wrong with men (and women) wanting or seeing a male play a character like Doctor Who and I think the future will re-open opportunities for that again, amongst others. I do think it is very important that in empowering equal rights we don't dehumanise our men OR anyone else.

I feel a little nervous for the weight of expectation on the new Doctor. I want her to do well and it would be encouraging if say a male looks to her and although may not identify gets that fellow human pride in seeing a good female role model like I have felt in reverse on behalf of my male counterparts.

My biggest concern is that I just may not click with the presentation of the character. I struggled with Capaldi at first. These Doctors can be manic so I hope she doesn't try tooo hard.
 
Well they are, and all of that is true. I don't think that all people who watch such shows are degenerate, but for me, personal preference is that I prefer light, funny, action, romance, and uplifting views of the future. A future I would want to be a part of, again, vicarious enjoyment is what I enjoy the most. Can I see myself in that position? Could I see myself wanting to live in that world? Would I do the same or make the same choices as that hero? so on and so forth. I can definitely say, outside Kirk, I heavily identified with Lister From RED Dwarf.. Especially the first few seasons.. Having spent allot of time alone as a kid to myself, mostly. I have younger brothers, but they tended to be closer in age and interests then me. I was a geek. I have a Documented IQ of 221 and dealt with a complex that arrived from knowing that fact and being treated differently because of it. Believe it or not, sometimes having a Documented genius IQ is not fun, nor is it something you are able to handle in an EGO sense. Sometimes much of my problem stemmed from a level of arrogance derived from it. Sometimes a bit of withdrawal happened because of it too. taking solace and sanctuary in a good Science Fiction series was comforting and made me feel better. But when political meandering and misandry started coming to the forefront ( yes I acknowledge it is always there, but in todays terms, the art of subtlety is lost) my escape into fantasy started to become uncomfortable. I don't mind change, but it should be gradual and organic and not In YOUR FACE and insult your intelligence along the way. I was comforted in my imagination, and the vicarious escapism that came with watching Good SCIFI and having good male role models to aspire to be like. Some may not like this fact, but there is a loss for boys with a new generation who will not have that come this new 3 year stint if it runs that long.. As far as representation, a good case for parody can be made, sure, and has. But in terms of Role models for boys, for the time being at least, there will be no TARDIS pilot that has that draw like the Doctor once did.. it will be up to the companions.. But I can't identify with one of them because he's a bit old for my taste.. Ageism is kind of a bit of an issue with me, unless the character is one I can see myself in the distant future becoming or see being more like me personality wise.

One simple question, why do you feel your role model should be male?
 
One simple question, why do you feel your role model should be male?

Logic..

I am male, and therefore as a male, I look to male role models.That's part of human nature, which no matter how much social engineering and education otherwise and to the contrary, mother nature always wins out. Humans are tribal, hence why we have sports, so we can root for our teams. A round peg fits into a round slot, but doesn't fit well in a square one. Not that there's anything wrong with female role models, I just identify as a male, in this lifetime, in this shell. I may come back as a female next time, who knows. But I've embraced that role in this reality, and I'm gonna find the best ones to emulate my life around for personal success.
 
Interesting insights.

Well, you may struggle with adjusting to the concept of not having a role model like yourself, given The Doctor is female and the age of one of the companions is not in a demographic you can relate to. There is something comforting and dare I say it, validating seeing reflections of ourselves succeeding. I have a love for really quaint whodunnit mystery stories. I don't really see the sleuths as role models though - I am neither a Poirot or Miss Marple BUT I am kind of loyal to these fictional characters being as I have loved them. (Like in the remake preview of Murder on the Orient Express - 2017, that blessed moustache on Poirot is insane!)

It's a bit of a challenge, as much as imagining possibilities sometimes we are more comfortable with the tried and true. I find with most of the Doctors I like them the most when they decide to leave or regenerate. Yet as a female it was nice seeing a male as a role model for men, too. Obviously not to emulate but to see a decent bloke/Timelord. As much as male representation has been traditionally established it has not always been of notable 'role model' worthiness. I repeat from earlier there is nothing wrong with men (and women) wanting or seeing a male play a character like Doctor Who and I think the future will re-open opportunities for that again, amongst others. I do think it is very important that in empowering equal rights we don't dehumanise our men OR anyone else.

I feel a little nervous for the weight of expectation on the new Doctor. I want her to do well and it would be encouraging if say a male looks to her and although may not identify gets that fellow human pride in seeing a good female role model like I have felt in reverse on behalf of my male counterparts.

My biggest concern is that I just may not click with the presentation of the character. I struggled with Capaldi at first. These Doctors can be manic so I hope she doesn't try tooo hard.

There's an aspect of Doctor Who you want, and I concur with you, that if the new series is to survive, Whittaker should be less "Manic" like a hyperactive child, and more subtle, like a sleuth, or good detective. If Chibnall (Chernobyl as I call him, which for me means disaster) concentrates on writing good mysteries in the series and steers clear of virtue signalling, shilling for the BBC image on that as well, then the show can make strides to succeed. The last viewing figures for the Christmas special were 7.9 million. Higher then the previous specials since 2014, yes..but not by much when you look at the context of the ratings decline.

There is a divide between nuWho and Classic Whovians, I used to believe that the new series was a continuation of the classic, yet I can now see why some..

Not me yet..(which is why I'm debating the Kelvin time line theory with other Whovians here trying to learn more about the divide some see)

Some see the new series breaking with the tradition of the old.

Let me be clear here tho, because I've had a lot of knee jerk labeling assigned simply because my initial reaction did not explain why I was and am still against Whittaker playing the part.

These are the factors that led to my viceral reaction.

1. Subtlety in political pandering or presenting one POV and not another was lost in Moffat's era. I love Capitalism. Apparently socialism is promoted and that's unfortunate as it seems blatant, and subtlety is gone. Subtle references I can stand. Advocation, is annoying for me, especially when repeated over and over.

2. Pandering and virtue signalling becomes prominent and the focus of episodes as we get closer to Bill and series 10. I divide classic Who by Season, whereby the New ver. By Series.

3. Based on the way things were going with 1 & 2 above, the play to cast a woman was presented as being fair. Males and females auditioning for the role, and it was said Whittaker just nailed the part the best of them, which I was thinking okay, so maybe a bit bias, seeing as how Whittaker works with Chibnall in Broadchurch. However later we discover that no. That's not the case, that whether a male actor was presented better in range and depth, they had no chance, as Chibnall always wanted a female to play the part. The gender reveal being kept secret was not as big a deal, except the leftist media fawning over that as it fits their political ideology. Sad tribalism at play there, and money, and virtue accalaids abound.

4. Demonizing people who are shocked by the change, before they have a chance to embrace the idea, this creating a divide and battle between fellow fans.

5. Media doubles down and attacks fans with divisive articles, and personal attacks of Misogony and sexism fly like rapid fire from German Housers by the thought police. This adding more fuel to the fire.

6. Culmative as these reasons are, I believe a female doctor should hapoen, however with all the political pandering and attacks on fans, it didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy with the reveal. They intentionally teased Whittaker in a cloak in the woods. No feminine finger nails, a male sort of boot and jacket, the subtle nuances of trying to visually trick the viewer until the hoodie is removed.

Wasnt their best move..along with the words that Whittaker herself touring as a feminist and telling scared little man babies to not be afraid of her gender, and so on..

7.those advocating for the gender role change not even taking 1 second to look at it from the other side, and attacking Peter Davison on Twitter until he had to bow out, simply for bringing up a simple and altruistic point, that a role model for little boys is going to be missing for a time. Prompting a backlash hounding him off Twitter. Tom Baker coming out with his way to help the divide by saying if it doesn't work, just fire the new doctor who and cast someone else.

What I think is happening, is when you want to explain your reasons for being skeptical about the casting choice, it's not as binary as sexism vs progressivism, or tolerance and parody for some, it's the culmulative message of pandering before the casting and the blunders making things worse after that have driven my comments, with no real time,to articulate them correctly against knee jerk criticism and judgement in defense of said casting.

Bottom line, for some like me, it's more complicated then the straight sexism some would like to portray for whatever reason gives them comfort and ignores the reasoning some have that is culmulative based on a series of factors which may have validity.

In other words, it's easier to get sexist then it is to listen and learn about why someone isn't keen on the casting choice and how it feels on the surface like pandering.,let alone ones personal view of Whittaker as an actress. Had the change and the PC police been more tolerant of the detractors and worked to bring them into the new tent, rather then flaming and labeling fans off the get go, there may have been more acceptance of the move. Time heals all wounds, and the future is not set in stone yet, but come mid season, the viewing figures will determine how much of a success this gamble will be received by classic and new Whovians alike. I got one hope they drop the pandering and political identity focus and concentrate on universal themes that anyone can relate to, outside of one sided politics. I wish the show the best, but won't be onboard with BBCA until after I read about each episode and what's really going on in the role and storylines. I may jump on, if they don't go 3rd wave feminist, and present the Doctor as just happening to be female, but if it becomes a platform for political identity ideology and socialist philosophy, then I'm sorry it won't be in my viewing list going forward
I think at this point. I've had quite enough of that with series 9 And 10.
 
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Logic..

I am male, and therefore as a male, I look to male role models.That's part of human nature, which no matter how much social engineering and education otherwise and to the contrary, mother nature always wins out

That isn't logic, that's pigeon holing. Someone with an alleged 200 plus IQ shouldn't need the difference explained. There is no inherent logic to the statement "I am male and therefore as a male I look to male role models"

Humans are tribal, hence why we have sports, so we can root for our teams. A round peg fits into a round slot, but doesn't fit well in a square one.

Humans are tribal, but it is amongst the very worst qualities we possess and one of the few redeeming features of tribalism is how the parameters that define the tribe are flexible. Certainly a innate tendency towards tribalism is no defence for sexism.

Not that there's anything wrong with female role models, I just identify as a male, in this lifetime, in this shell.

False equivalence, identifying with someone and seeing them as a role model are distinct phenomena. As males we have no shortage of onscreen representation of characters we can identify with, on the contrary we already have way more than our fair share. There is no legitimate case for claiming we are underrepresented or lacking in characters to relate to.

Role models, on the other hand are something else entirely, they are about the values and principles by which that character behaves and how we choose to adopt or reject them. There is no a priori reason for such a character to bear any demographic resemblance to the viewer.

I'm gonna find the best ones to emulate my life around for personal success.

Personally I'd rather we looked for the best ones for humanity generally.
 
There's an aspect of Doctor Who you want, and I concur with you, that if the new series is to survive, Whittaker should be less "Manic" like a hyperactive child, and more subtle, like a sleuth, or good detective. If Chibnall (Chernobyl as I call him, which for me means disaster) concentrates on writing good mysteries in the series and steers clear of virtue signalling, shilling for the BBC image on that as well, then the show can make strides to succeed. The last viewing figures for the Christmas special were 7.9 million. Higher then the previous specials since 2014, yes..but not by much when you look at the context of the ratings decline.

There is a divide between nuWho and Classic Whovians, I used to believe that the new series was a continuation of the classic, yet I can now see why some..

Not me yet..(which is why I'm debating the Kelvin time line theory with other Whovians here trying to learn more about the divide some see)

Some see the new series breaking with the tradition of the old.

Let me be clear here tho, because I've had a lot of knee jerk labeling assigned simply because my initial reaction did not explain why I was and am still against Whittaker playing the part.

These are the factors that led to my viceral reaction.

1. Subtlety in political pandering or presenting one POV and not another was lost in Moffat's era. I love Capitalism. Apparently socialism is promoted and that's unfortunate as it seems blatant, and subtlety is gone. Subtle references I can stand. Advocation, is annoying for me, especially when repeated over and over.

2. Pandering and virtue signalling becomes prominent and the focus of episodes as we get closer to Bill and series 10. I divide classic Who by Season, whereby the New ver. By Series.

3. Based on the way things were going with 1 & 2 above, the play to cast a woman was presented as being fair. Males and females auditioning for the role, and it was said Whittaker just nailed the part the best of them, which I was thinking okay, so maybe a bit bias, seeing as how Whittaker works with Chibnall in Broadchurch. However later we discover that no. That's not the case, that whether a male actor was presented better in range and depth, they had no chance, as Chibnall always wanted a female to play the part. The gender reveal being kept secret was not as big a deal, except the leftist media fawning over that as it fits their political ideology. Sad tribalism at play there, and money, and virtue accalaids abound.

4. Demonizing people who are shocked by the change, before they have a chance to embrace the idea, this creating a divide and battle between fellow fans.

5. Media doubles down and attacks fans with divisive articles, and personal attacks of Misogony and sexism fly like rapid fire from German Housers by the thought police. This adding more fuel to the fire.

6. Culmative as these reasons are, I believe a female doctor should hapoen, however with all the political pandering and attacks on fans, it didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy with the reveal. They intentionally teased Whittaker in a cloak in the woods. No feminine finger nails, a male sort of boot and jacket, the subtle nuances of trying to visually trick the viewer until the hoodie is removed.

Wasnt their best move..along with the words that Whittaker herself touring as a feminist and telling scared little man babies to not be afraid of her gender, and so on..

7.those advocating for the gender role change not even taking 1 second to look at it from the other side, and attacking Peter Davison on Twitter until he had to bow out, simply for bringing up a simple and altruistic point, that a role model for little boys is going to be missing for a time. Prompting a backlash hounding him off Twitter. Tom Baker coming out with his way to help the divide by saying if it doesn't work, just fire the new doctor who and cast someone else.

What I think is happening, is when you want to explain your reasons for being skeptical about the casting choice, it's not as binary as sexism vs progressivism, or tolerance and parody for some, it's the culmulative message of pandering before the casting and the blunders making things worse after that have driven my comments, with no real time,to articulate them correctly against knee jerk criticism and judgement in defense of said casting.

Bottom line, for some like me, it's more complicated then the straight sexism some would like to portray for whatever reason gives them comfort and ignores the reasoning some have that is culmulative based on a series of factors which may have validity.

In other words, it's easier to get sexist then it is to listen and learn about why someone isn't keen on the casting choice and how it feels on the surface like pandering.,let alone ones personal view of Whittaker as an actress. Had the change and the PC police been more tolerant of the detractors and worked to bring them into the new tent, rather then flaming and labeling fans off the get go, there may have been more acceptance of the move. Time heals all wounds, and the future is not set in stone yet, but come mid season, the viewing figures will determine how much of a success this gamble will be received by classic and new Whovians alike. I got one hope they drop the pandering and political identity focus and concentrate on universal themes that anyone can relate to, outside of one sided politics. I wish the show the best, but won't be onboard with BBCA until after I read about each episode and what's really going on in the role and storylines. I may jump on, if they don't go 3rd wave feminist, and present the Doctor as just happening to be female, but if it becomes a platform for political identity ideology and socialist philosophy, then I'm sorry it won't be in my viewing list going forward
I think at this point. I've had quite enough of that with series 9 And 10.

I’m really only addressing your point about late era Moffat writing here but...

Look again at the subtexts. Moffat pushes ‘good dads’ and ‘dads protecting their children’ way up, in a way not seen since James Potter got wiped out on his doorstep trying to protect his wife and child. That’s a powerful and good thing to see on TV, and people criticised the hell out of at least one of those episodes, without getting how good. Rain resisting the cyberisation actually is. Fuck those criticisms. I’m a dad and I punched the air. Because yes, we would tear the cybercontroller a new one for our kids, and not stop till you could stamp Pepsi on it’s side and use it to serve cold beverages.
The emoticon aliens episode was borderline ‘right wing’ propaganda. ‘You want to come live here, in this utopia thes guys built...admittedly with some of your resources...well, you are gonna have to pay rent, and forgive the fact that a (software) generation ago, something these guys in front of you have no memory of and didn’t benefit from, killed your ancestors due to mistakes made by the system in charge, and be good neighbours’. I still don’t know how that (a) got past the fandom and (b) actually makes me feel. They even had the lead family be played by Continental Indian big name stars.
The Zygon Inversion also plays really really hard with politics, with integration being the thing that is most important to not killing each other.
The monks is totally about the danger of having your history rewritten under you, and the dangers of letting a powerful group take that control, with your consent, on the promise of some great fear. That’s a smack hitting the left and the right.
There’s highlighting of the idea of Victorian Britain as a Matriarchy and as a Colonising force that nonetheless integrated its subjects in...whatever that Gatiss episode on Mars was. Which also comments on all sorts things as it goes...bravery, the idea of being forced by a system to commit acts that you know are wrong.
Moffat generally plays it right down the centre, mocking overt statements as he goes, and I am surprised there hasn’t been more outcry at these and other things that swoop under the radar. I love that Rory punched Hitler and stuck him in a cupboard, it’s great...the only good thing in the episode really...when the Doctor smacks the racist in the one on the frozen Thames. His stuff around gender and regeneration has been a bit fuzzy (Missy going all ‘trap’ to borrow a term I only really know from video game controversies. Is gender change a choice in regeneration? Is it as rare as it seems to be, and possibly only a side effect of being in a second cycle of regenerations? That’s what seems to be suggested on screen by events, even if dialogue muddies the waters.)
Moffat is a small c conservative, possibly big C too...his writing on Coupling back in the day also presents him as someone the prefers the middle ground of politics. (Labour supporters as the evil empire, and conservatives as the rebel alliance...because you can’t still be the underdog when your party is in power.) Everytime he did something ‘virtue signalling’ he either did it organically, or made fun of it at the same time. He’s a difficult one to judge, and I think he gets attacked but the right and the left because they both think he’s on the other side. Poor sod.

Craig. Not rain. Effing spellcheck.
 
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