Perhaps.
But why create an alternate universe when the old one was so incredible great?
Voyager fans.. are you disappointed about Discovery?
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But why create an alternate universe when the old one was so incredible great?
Why do anything?
The old universe wouldn't allow any of its inhabitants to be filmed.
Because they're too old and tired of the chaos. Lol
They had the database from the USS Defiant from "The Tholian Web"/"In a Mirror, Darkly".
...which Mirror-Archer said he was gonna delete in the latter episode
So you can do new things with old characters, which could never be done while adhering to the classic continuity. Batshit crazy scenarios where an evil admiral recruits Khan to design superships and weapons to fight a war with the Klingons, or adventures where the Enterprise is attacked and crashes on an alien planet and the crew have to find a way back to a nearby Starbase before it's attacked too.
A scenario which I'm not interested in at all.They had the database from the USS Defiant from "The Tholian Web"/"In a Mirror, Darkly".
...which Mirror-Archer said he was gonna delete in the latter episode
So you can do new things with old characters, which could never be done while adhering to the classic continuity. Batshit crazy scenarios where an evil admiral recruits Khan to design superships and weapons to fight a war with the Klingons, or adventures where the Enterprise is attacked and crashes on an alien planet and the crew have to find a way back to a nearby Starbase before it's attacked too.
I prefer such scenarios with new characters instead of messing up and ruining the old ones. Not to mention that I don't want the original continuity and original characters be ruined by ego-maniac producers.
Because change can be a good thing.
My problem with alternate/mirror universes is what I call 'superman syndrome'. Let's kill so and so for dramatic effect, then pop over to this other universe and bring back a copy. Its shock and awe writing, with a sprinkle of laziness. After a while I stop caring if anyone dies.
I've nothing against STD specifically, but I'm really sick and tired of all the prequels. I want them to just continue the damn story already.
And is neither for the writers and producers of DSV and ENT.That would break continuity, though. What I don’t understand is why the Klingons had to be changed so drastically. Poor decision, IMO. There must be a few fics that explain the difference in their appearance. But fics should not need to.
If there are different Klingon races, which have undergone differing evolutions, the difficulty vanishes. But Klingon ethnology is not my forte
Rick and Morty plays with this trope and shows (in Morty, at least) the emotional toll of hopping universes after accidently destroying your own Earth.
Why is this??? How come every new iteration from an established property, these idiots (the producers) has to make their mission statement the project has to be darker. Then references of how good TWOK, and ESB comes about. DS9 was dark, then VOY came along - it was a little dark, ENT was darker, and now DSV, it seems the mini-brains from these productions failed to realize being dark is cliche'.
Sorry for your loss.First, I wanted to apologize to have been less present lately due to my Mum's unexpected death. I needed to step back a little...
Spoiler Alert if you have not watched Discovery.
Sure you can play with it, but the emotional impact of watching a favourite character die is lost. And when shows that want to take themselves seriously continually play on this theme, it ruins any chance of me caring if they die because we all know they will simply replace them with a copy. Discovery does this with not one, but two characters, both captains by the way. With Lorca they actually brought his copy to our universe before killing him back in the mirror universe. A slightly different twist but ok. Star trek and their captains. Lol
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Perhaps.
But change can also be a bad thing and I never like when they change just for the sake of changing.
And why change something which is great. It can only get worse.
STEPhonit wrote:
I agree with that. Not to mention that the world around us is too dark already as it is. When I watch a series like Star Trek, I do this for a bit of excitement and entertainment, to relax from "The Gray Universe" as I call the sphere I'm living in. Therefore I don't want those doom-and-gloom scenarios.
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Me too. Bring be back to the 24th century! I exist there, as Sisko should have said.
As for STD, what really made me lose the little interest I might have had was when the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles showed up, pretending to be Klingons.
But Discovery never does this as a straight swap (a la Harry Kim in "Deadlock"). They're very different people who lived very different lives, who happen to look identical.
Captain Georgiou is still dead, the former Emperor is no replacement. And we never even met Prime Lorca.
Because they are trying to market something for a particular time frame. It isn't just that Star Trek is in a bottle. It is a product of its times, including production values, good, bad or indifferent.
Here's the thing. It becomes static. That's my experience with Trek over the years is the expectations that Star Trek be a "greatest hits" album, touching on all the familiar notes and not changing too much, and playing it very safe.
What made Star Trek great was highly unique, and then it became a bit static. I'm not saying Discovery is perfect, but I'll applaud the production team for at least trying something different. And, if they had set Discovery post-VOY/NEM there would still be complaints because they changed stuff.
That's fair enough! If they are telling us that then I for one have no problem with it as such!
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