Spoilers Krypton season 1

[Christopher]

the characters of Lyta and Jayna are definitely not the sort of Zods we're used to.

When Jayna said Lyta was "the first Zod ever accused of treason," that was a bit of foreshadowing, as in, she won't be the last.

Perhaps the involvement with the House of Vex corrupts them.

Why should it be "them?" Maybe General Zod was the only bad egg in an otherwise good family -- like Lex Luthor in the pre-Crisis comics. Or like Osama bin Laden in real life.

 

[theenglish]

Anyone know if this is streaming or going to be streamed on any of the main platforms?

 

[Apparition B5]

Anyone know if this is streaming or going to be streamed on any of the main platforms?

It streams on Hulu, IIRC.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I'm just wondering when someone decided that America was too dumb to understand the word "Pleb" so someone had to smoosh together that awkward word "unranked"?

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm just wondering when someone decided that America was too dumb to understand the word "Pleb" so someone had to smoosh together that awkward word "unranked"?

More like an attempt to sound different and alien.

 

[Christopher]

Well, that was a deft twist. The flashbacks to Jayna abandoning her brother in the wastes had me convinced that Colin Salmon's character would turn out to be her brother, Lyta's uncle. Which was probably done intentionally to distract from the real truth -- that he's her son. And the preview for next week is incredibly spoilery:

Spoiler

Salmon is playing the General Zod (i.e. Dru-Zod), Superman's nemesis. We're finally getting a payoff to the line in the pilot about people coming back in time. Except it looks like Zod's come back to save Krypton from Brainiac... by unleashing Doomsday. Except, if that's the case, why wasn't Krypton destroyed by Brainiac in the original timeline? And how does saving Krypton prevent Superman's birth?

Anyway, this erases all lingering doubt that Krypton is in a separate continuity from the DCEU films, since this General Zod looks quite different and has a noticeably un-broken neck.

 

[thribs]

I heard rumors that they were going to make Adam Strange gay which seem to be true. Seems rather strange since part of his story in the comics deal with his love for a Rann girl, Alanna. Seems like another example of another unnecessary change to fill some sort of diversity quota. Could have easily made someone else gay who isn't already established as being straight.

Well, that was a deft twist. The flashbacks to Jayna abandoning her brother in the wastes had me convinced that Colin Salmon's character would turn out to be her brother, Lyta's uncle. Which was probably done intentionally to distract from the real truth -- that he's her son. And the preview for next week is incredibly spoilery:

Spoiler

Salmon is playing the General Zod (i.e. Dru-Zod), Superman's nemesis. We're finally getting a payoff to the line in the pilot about people coming back in time. Except it looks like Zod's come back to save Krypton from Brainiac... by unleashing Doomsday. Except, if that's the case, why wasn't Krypton destroyed by Brainiac in the original timeline? And how does saving Krypton prevent Superman's birth?

Anyway, this erases all lingering doubt that Krypton is in a separate continuity from the DCEU films, since this General Zod looks quite different and has a noticeably un-broken neck.

It didn't occur to me that it would be him but I suppose it fits. Could be before Superman defeated him.

 

[Christopher]

There's an interview on io9 with Krypton showrunner Cameron Welsh, and it answers a lot of the questions I've been asking throughout the thread about the apparent inconsistencies in the premise, i.e. why would Adam Strange be trying to stop Brainiac when Brainiac was part of Krypton's original history all along?

“Adam [came] to Krypton with a very specific message to Seg—Superman’s very existence is under threat, and we have to stop Brainiac,” said Welsh. “But we all know Brainiac was always coming to take Kandor City; that’s what Adam Strange got wrong.”

That is to say, Brainiac isn’t any more of a threat to the planet than he was before the show’s story began. Instead, it’s Zod who is trying to alter Krypton’s history. “But not to destroy Krypton; to save it,” said Welsh.

According to the showrunner, the conflict that emerges shapes the second half of the season. For instance, when Adam Strange realizes he was wrong, and that Zod is seeking to alter the future, Strange tries to convince Seg that history needs to play out according to plan, and his planet needs to die. If Krypton survives, Kal-El would never become Superman and save the universe from countless threats.

“If you extrapolate that, it means allowing Kandor City to be taken to ensure Superman’s birth,” said Welsh. More importantly, the reveal marks a “big moment” in Seg’s hero’s journey, because Zod and Adam will both be “vying for his soul.”

That's what I've been thinking all along -- that the way to prevent Superman's birth is to save Krypton, and that the "hero" trying to preserve Superman's existence would have to be fighting to ensure that a whole planet died, which would make for a far more interesting conflict. And now it turns out the show is actually doing that. Zod is trying to save his whole planet, not just to erase Superman. And that makes it much harder to see him as a pure villain.

So I'd say the show just got a ton more interesting.

Although there's also a pretty easy way to solve the conflict, it seems to me. If Adam Strange can travel through time, he should just let Zod save Krypton from destruction, then go to the more recent past and convince Jor-El and Lara that they need to send their infant son to Earth (or, at worst, just kidnap him). That way, Superman still happens without Krypton needing to die. Although what the article goes on to say about Zod's long-term plans for Krypton makes that problematical.

 

[DigificWriter]

It streams on Hulu, IIRC.

No, it doesn't.

Krypton can only be viewed online through SyFy.Com or the SyFY Now app, although one must have a subscription to a cable service in order to do so.

I finally had a chance to watch the series - which I was intrigued by back when it was first announced - earlier this week, and am as in love with it as I am with Supergirl, especially with this latest twist having turned the story on its head.

The voice is a rather strange character since it is obviously the voice of Brainiac (Ritson’s voice is too identifiable). So is he some agent of Brainiac or does this attack make him one?
Whatever he needs the show needs more Brainiac. You can’t constantly tease him without giving us more of him. I imagine his involvement is what brought many of the viewers into it.

The Voice of Rao sounds like Brainiac because Blake Ritson is playing him in a double-cast* role.

* A double-cast role, for anyone who might not know, is when the same actor plays two completely different characters at the same time in the same production. It's seen most commonly in theater, specifically in the musical production of Peter Pan that served as the basis for NBC's Peter Pan Live broadcast in which, traditionally, the roles of Mr. Darling and Captain Hook are played by the same actor.

 

[Christopher]

The Voice of Rao sounds like Brainiac because Blake Ritson is playing him in a double-cast* role.

Yeah, I figured that was probably the case once I saw the VoR get infected by Brainiac. That explained why they kept his face hidden.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Krypton can only be viewed online through SyFy.Com or the SyFY Now app, although one must have a subscription to a cable service in order to do so.

You can also stream the eps on Amazon of course.

 

[DigificWriter]

Yeah, I figured that was probably the case once I saw the VoR get infected by Brainiac. That explained why they kept his face hidden.

They double-cast Ritson from the moment they hired him, and he, by his own admission, played the character of The Voice of Rao very differently in his first appearances than how he will be playing him going forward now that the character has been turned into a Brainiac Sentry, so it's not really as simple as "we'll have Blake play The Voice of Rao because we're going to make that character "part" of Brainiac", which is what I think some people might think.

 

[starsuperion]

Well, that was a deft twist. The flashbacks to Jayna abandoning her brother in the wastes had me convinced that Colin Salmon's character would turn out to be her brother, Lyta's uncle. Which was probably done intentionally to distract from the real truth -- that he's her son. And the preview for next week is incredibly spoilery:

Spoiler

Salmon is playing the General Zod (i.e. Dru-Zod), Superman's nemesis. We're finally getting a payoff to the line in the pilot about people coming back in time. Except it looks like Zod's come back to save Krypton from Brainiac... by unleashing Doomsday. Except, if that's the case, why wasn't Krypton destroyed by Brainiac in the original timeline? And how does saving Krypton prevent Superman's birth?

Anyway, this erases all lingering doubt that Krypton is in a separate continuity from the DCEU films, since this General Zod looks quite different and has a noticeably un-broken neck.

I think the storyline is going to reconcile at somepoint, but even in the bumpers about the program
they explain that somethings are gonna change the origins of Superman.. so I am kinda excited to see what and how all that plays out. This new series feels decidedly different to that of the CW stuff. I am loving every episode of it! SyFy has a huge Hit on their hands!

 

[Jadeb]

This new series feels decidedly different to that of the CW stuff.

I really like that about it. So far, it's more updated Flash Gordon than CW.

 

[starsuperion]

I really like that about it. So far, it's more updated Flash Gordon than CW.

ditto,the show is as addictive as crack

 

[thribs]

Reminds me of the Gallifrey series.

 

[Tuvix5675]

There's an interview on io9 with Krypton showrunner Cameron Welsh, and it answers a lot of the questions I've been asking throughout the thread about the apparent inconsistencies in the premise, i.e. why would Adam Strange be trying to stop Brainiac when Brainiac was part of Krypton's original history all along?



That's what I've been thinking all along -- that the way to prevent Superman's birth is to save Krypton, and that the "hero" trying to preserve Superman's existence would have to be fighting to ensure that a whole planet died, which would make for a far more interesting conflict. And now it turns out the show is actually doing that. Zod is trying to save his whole planet, not just to erase Superman. And that makes it much harder to see him as a pure villain.

So I'd say the show just got a ton more interesting.

Although there's also a pretty easy way to solve the conflict, it seems to me. If Adam Strange can travel through time, he should just let Zod save Krypton from destruction, then go to the more recent past and convince Jor-El and Lara that they need to send their infant son to Earth (or, at worst, just kidnap him). That way, Superman still happens without Krypton needing to die. Although what the article goes on to say about Zod's long-term plans for Krypton makes that problematical.

Really weird, that Adam didn't know Krypton's history. Why go through all the trouble of time-traveling and potentially messing up the time-line and Superman's origins if you don't even know the planet's history. I wonder where he got his information that Brainiac had gone back in time to stop Superman from getting born?

 

[Marc]

looks like no new episode this week according to my tivo but it's been wrong before.

 

[Christopher]

Zap2It and my cable listings both show that there is a new Krypton episode this Wednesday.

 

[crookeddy]

SyFy has a huge Hit on their hands!

Not even close. Ratings down by 50 percent from the premiere, and haven't stabilized yet. I'd bet on a season 2, but nothing after that.