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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

Well, I've gotten slowed down because A) I need to model the exterior of the top of the spacedock for the shot...

Well, I guess that's more sensible than making a Yorktown model. *pouts*

B) I also want to do all 4 of the shots at the end of TVH. That being said, here's an update tease...(click to see full size, or right click open in new tab)

I'm really curious about your post workflow. TVH's model work (especially this shot) had these soft, gauzy bloom effects that you've matched very well.
 
Nothing wrong with that.

What's idiotic about it? It's just a dish.
It just looks too 1960s for me, plus none of the other Starfleet ships have it except the Shenzou which is understandable due to it being so much older than the rest.

It makes me think of a Sky TV dish that has been bolted on the front so they can watch MTV.

Its not as bad on the Discovery Enterprise as it is on the ToS Enterprise (mind you its fair enough as it was designed in the 60s) but it still looks out of place to me.
 
Thanks. I'm paying ultra close attention to details like that because I want to match the motion control miniature look, and not the CG look. The idea of this shot is "What if this had been the design and miniature model in 1986?" and match that aesthetic at closely as possible.
Tricky to do with the newer version being so much larger than the original.

You either have to zoom out further, place the ship further away from the camera or somehow play with the angle of the sequence.
 
Even if smartphones were free I wouldn't have eight.



Have you any updates for us, sir?

I use my older model smartphones as readers and music players, have two kindle e-readers, and may also be working across an iPad and my laptop. That’s five PADD like devices and one computer, doing one piece of work and some background tasks, and doesn’t include little one using my older kindle tablet or windows tablet, possibly while the tv is in use.
And no...I am working class, I just keep my old tech in good working order, and don’t stop using it when the new contract comes along. Some of us just multitask, and multiple screens/devices is more efficient than tabs/windows/multidesktops or even multiple monitors. The pile of padds is extremely believable.
 
It just looks too 1960s for me, plus none of the other Starfleet ships have it except the Shenzou which is understandable due to it being so much older than the rest.

Most of DSC's Fed ships appear to have physical dishes of varying designs. Mostly the horizontal NX-01/Columbia style.

But the Shenzhou, Discovery (it's is flush with the hull) and Enterprise appear to be the only ones with round ones.
 
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Thanks. I'm paying ultra close attention to details like that because I want to match the motion control miniature look, and not the CG look. The idea of this shot is "What if this had been the design and miniature model in 1986?" and match that aesthetic at closely as possible.

That's exactly what I asked for! :) I've been thinking about it in my head for a couple of months but actually seeing it is something I'm very much looking forward to.

Will you integrate shots from the movie (like, the cast and dialogue) in there?

Some of us just multitask, and multiple screens/devices is more efficient than tabs/windows/multidesktops or even multiple monitors.

How's it more efficient? I've been multitasking for ages and I've never needed more than one monitor, never mind more than one device.
 
Most of DSC's Fed ships appear to have physical dishes of varying designs. Mostly the horizontal NX-01/Columbia style.

But the Shenzhou, Discovery (it's is flush with the hull) and Enterprise appear to be the only ones with round ones.
The Enterprise D and Voyager had physical dishes as well, but they weren't simple round dishes either.
 
Tricky to do with the newer version being so much larger than the original.

You either have to zoom out further, place the ship further away from the camera or somehow play with the angle of the sequence.

Nah, I just ignored the scaling and made it the same as the refit.

That's exactly what I asked for! :) I've been thinking about it in my head for a couple of months but actually seeing it is something I'm very much looking forward to.

Will you integrate shots from the movie (like, the cast and dialogue) in there?

Yes.
 
So's the PADD, and in any event what does this have to do with anything? Again, people are trying to find excuses to justify why the show looks quaint by our technological standards. What's the point of doing that?
PADDs are not consumer devices, and as I showed (with pictures), modern day military equipment does not look like an iphone. They look deceptively primitive, are heavy, don't have color screens, use buttons, etc. And yet they are widely used, up to date, and expensive.

Just in case anyone's forgotten, Discovery uses flip phone communicators, as did Enterprise...
 
PADDs are not consumer devices, and as I showed (with pictures), modern day military equipment does not look like an iphone.

How do you know whether or not they're consumer devices?

And again, this is entirely beside the point. They're essentially Kindle. There's no reason why they wouldn't be more advanced than that 350 years from now. Really, stop making excuses.
 
Because they're used for Starfleet!

What are you even arguing? Discovery is using TOS style communicators now. Are you hoping the next show won't?
I'm so happy you know what the future looks like, and why Star Trek can't get it right.

And since you keep avoiding it, why doesn't the military use smartphones? (Not including for personal use).

Standard communication device used in AD2018:
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this isn't some holdover. It's a new model.
 
Yeah, you're not really making the case as to why the audience should accept these things as "futuristic" when they're so anachronistic now.
 
Yeah, you're not really making the case as to why the audience should accept these things as "futuristic" when they're so anachronistic now.
What he's saying is that they're not actually anachronistic now, and he's right in fact, but that doesn't satisfy audience expectations.
 
The Enterprise D and Voyager had physical dishes as well, but they weren't simple round dishes either.

Techically weren't the refitted 1701 and the Enterprise-A equipped with physical dishes, only ones that were fully inset into the secondary hulls and glowed? They're still concave dishes, just without physical prongs and with a glowing effect to show the energy surging through the deflector system. The Excelsior and Enterprise-B would also have a similar deflector dish.
 
Techically weren't the refitted 1701 and the Enterprise-A equipped with physical dishes, only ones that were fully inset into the secondary hulls and glowed? They're still concave dishes, just without physical prongs and with a glowing effect to show the energy surging through the deflector system. The Excelsior and Enterprise-B would also have a similar deflector dish.
I guess "physical dishes" isn't the best way to distinguish glowing ones from protruding copper ones, but the refit/Exelsior dishes don't appear very coppery even when powered down, whereas most ships since the start of TNG have a distinct, non-glowing, copper dish with a blue glow behind it.
 
You probably should have read what I said earlier. There will be no FTL, there will be not Transporters. On the other hand, computers will be much more powerful than in Trek, everything will be automated. People will not have anything meaningful to do. So a scifi show with realistically projected development of technology will be about some people viewing reports that automated drone ships have sent from the distant planets. Mind you, those reports will be decades or even centuries outdated, as there will be no FTL. Does this sound like Star Trek to you?
Ok, let me restate. In my opnion, I don't expect all future elements to be realistic. FTL falls under that category and is the one magic bean that can be expanded upon from the premise. Not unusual in fiction, and I believe is part of basic screenwriting. Can't remember the book.

That doesn't mean that a fictional gets to get away with everything else can't be projected from current technological understandng. In fact, it is more believable that way.
 
Because they're used for Starfleet!

And?

You seem to be under the impression that it's obvious that they're military equipment. Phasers, I get. But what makes you think civilians don't use communicators, tricorders and PADDs, among other things? You have no frame of reference to claim this.

And I'm sure today's military _does_ use ipads outside of battlefields.
 
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