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Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

Is it?

  • Yes, that's the official word and it still fits

    Votes: 194 44.7%
  • Yes, but it's borderline at this point

    Votes: 44 10.1%
  • No, there's just too many inconsistencies

    Votes: 147 33.9%
  • I don't care about continuity, just the show's quality

    Votes: 49 11.3%

  • Total voters
    434
IMO every other series has not violated canon so much. There may have been a few goofs here and there.

That's a load of bunk.

They were also establishing the canon as they advanced the timeline.

And so is Discovery.

Your argument against DSC being set in the Prime Timeline is logically flawed because you're trying to hold it to a standard to which no other Star Trek series has ever been held.
 
And they chose to do a prequel set ten years before TOS because they obviously wanted to use elements from or alluded to in TOS like characters and events.
While also giving themselves a little breathing room before we reach a point in the timeline which is already heavily established in ToS.
 
That's a load of bunk.



And so is Discovery.

Your argument against DSC being set in the Prime Timeline is logically flawed because you're trying to hold it to a standard to which no other Star Trek series has ever been held.
It's my opinion. To me it feels like an alternate timeline because it is so different from what came before. I'm not insulting or bashing the show. I enjoyed it a lot.
 
It's my opinion. To me it feels like an alternate timeline because it is so different from what came before. I'm not insulting or bashing the show. I enjoyed it a lot.
That's ok, there is nothing wrong with that kind of approach to the show if it helps you enjoy it.

There are those however who will see that as some kind of a challenge to their own view of the show as if its some kind of competition, or as an invitation to them to try to convince you otherwise by banging on about it.

Just ignore them, if they wish to be miserable that's fine just don't let them drag you down with them.

Misery loves company.
 
That's not how it works.
Well, in a way it could. I mean, I pretty much accepted holocom being replaced with classic Trek viewscreen communivation by the rationalization that the holocom took away too much bandwidth, but "it's in another universe" is just as much a rationalization as the previous one, even if it is in my opinion a bit too easy. And if you want to get really technical it would still be canon, the same way all the laternate realities in "Parallels" are canon. To be clear, I don't see it that way, but I can see how one would come to that conclusion. In a way I do it myself with some of the 80s Trek novels that don't fit with TNG. Personally, I really only have a problem with declaring DSC being in a different universe, purely on the basis of one not liking the show.
 
That's a load of bunk.

Your argument against DSC being set in the Prime Timeline is logically flawed because you're trying to hold it to a standard to which no other Star Trek series has ever been held.
* sigh *

You remind me of certain U.S. Political figures who are convinced that whatever they choose to believe is the way things are, but life doesn't actually work that way.

Tone it down a little. That shit is cringeworthy to read.
 
I've just always wondered from a writer's perspsctive why do a prequel where you need to work within the boundaries of previously established canon? You have much more creative freedom to do a show that just continues the existing story line. Everything about Discovery can stay the same and there would be absolutely no question about if it's in the Prime universe if it took place after the last Trek movie.

It's because Bryan Fuller had a "vision", that was probably completely bonkers, wild, weird, and unconventional. And then he got canned because he wasn't delivering results (most likely because his ideas were so weird and specific that he never got around to actually, you know, produce said content). And the new replacement crew, consisting of people with vastly less talent, were stuck with continuing what Fuller previously did - the whole prequel stuff included. And they didn't really knew what to do with it either.
 
It's because Bryan Fuller had a "vision", that was probably completely bonkers, wild, weird, and unconventional. And then he got canned because he wasn't delivering results (most likely because his ideas were so weird and specific that he never got around to actually, you know, produce content). And the new crew, consisting of people with vastly less talent, were stuck with what Fuller previously did - the whole prequel stuff included. And they didn't really knew what to do with it either.
That's what happens when a project is handed over mid way through, quite often its due to the parent network being heavy handed.

I am hoping the damage isn't too great to American Gods.
 
* sigh *

You remind me of certain U.S. Political figures who are convinced that whatever they choose to believe is the way things are, but life doesn't actually work that way.

Tone it down a little. That shit is cringeworthy to read.

Yeah. I have to agree with Rahul. And I'm as big of a Discovery fan as any. Why attack someone like that? It's not called for. Especially if they already said they like the show. Not that it would be okay even if they didn't, but still...
 
That's what happens when a project is handed over mid way through, quite often its due to the parent network being heavy handed.

I am hoping the damage isn't too great to American Gods.

I think American Gods is probably going to change a bit going forward. But the finished season was probably pretty close to what Fuller wanted to do.

Discovery on the other hand looks like it is completely different from what Fuller wanted to do. It'll be really interesting if we one day get some behind-the-scenes material, where we can see which direction Fuller originally wanted to take the show.
 
Every Star Trek series has "contradicted previously established Canon", so why is Discovery the "last straw"?

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I think American Gods is probably going to change a bit going forward. But the finished season was probably pretty close to what Fuller wanted to do.

Discovery on the other hand looks like it is completely different from what Fuller wanted to do. It'll be really interesting if we one day get some behind-the-scenes material, where we can see which direction Fuller originally wanted to take the show.
Shame to lose Gillian Anderson and Kristin Chenoweth, they were both great but I can understand why they left the production.
 
Studios love prequels and sequels more than writers do...well, sort of.

It's mainly about what will get you paid.
 
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