Star Trek origins story

[Tenacity]

TOS and DSC are both about "a crew on a spaceship having adventures every week"

Discovery and The Expanse are both covered under that.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Discovery and The Expanse are both covered under that.

Fair enough.

 

[Dukhat]

Not really, TOS did have some military adventurism as part of the overall mix, and a single episode mostly set in the mirror universe.

But DIS is lacking TOS' multiple exploraton episodes, and encountering multiple previously unknown (unknown to Starfleet) species. Multiple episodes involving civilians are also lacking.

DIS has very few themes during it time so far.

No, the premise is the same. TOS and DSC both have crews on a ship having adventures every week. What those adventures are (exploring planets-of-the-week or fighting a war) is secondary to the premise.

Discovery and The Expanse are both covered under that.

One could also say that the premise of BSG and VOY are the same too. Or the premise of every police procedural show. Or the premise of every soap opera.

 

[Valenti]

BSG and VOY are different expressions of the same concept/premise of getting lost but that is one huge concept - The Twilight Zone and Space :1999, not to mention Lost In Space and Gilligan's Island.

 

[Matthew Raymond]

If you stretch the premise enough, any two shows are the same. Star Trek and Scooby Doo have the same premise in that they both feature ensemble casts traveling around in a named vehicle, solving mysteries.

 

[Dukhat]

I've forgotten what the original complaint was about.

 

[Matthew Raymond]

I've forgotten what the original complaint was about.

I think the original thread idea was to do a "back to the beginning" ENT-style reboot.

 

[Valenti]

We were talking about Star Trek being a rehash as well as a reboot and that BSG was more of a remake. Lets define our terms a little better. There's reboot (hard and soft), there's rehash (my term), there's reimagining, There's story, concept, premise, and theme and then there's universe, timeline, reality and continuity.

 

[Tenacity]

One could also say that the premise of BSG and VOY are the same too.

Exactly. BSG and Voy differ in the details, as do TOS and DIS.

You'd have to squint pretty hard to see TOS and DIS as more than vaguely similar.

 

[Kor]

We saw the origins of Trek that time when Q transported Picard billions of years into the past.

Kor

 

[The Wormhole]

Lets define our terms a little better.

Let's not and say we did.

 

[Spot261]

recycling
reworking
rehashing
rebooting
reconceptualising
rescripting

Will there be Tribbles?

 

[Matthew Raymond]

Will there be Tribbles?

Rebooted, reconceptualized tribbles.

 

[Spot261]

Rebooted, reconceptualized tribbles.

Hairless tribbles

 

[Matthew Raymond]

Hairless tribbles

Just don't put nipples on them.

 

[Spot261]

Just don't put nipples on them.

I promise you I'll never put a nipple on a tribble.

Happy?

 

[The Old Mixer]

Let's not forget "regurgitating".

 

[Matthew Raymond]

Let's not forget "regurgitating".

I can just imagine an alien throwing up a partially digested Jean-Luc Picard.

 

[Valenti]

One I forgot was revamping. That seemed to be popular with B5 for some reason.

 

[Dukhat]

One I forgot was revamping. That seemed to be popular with B5 for some reason.

How?