Will be there be nudity in Season 2?
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That or they just horny or want to get horny. I think your confusing Lust with logic. People don't apply much logic when it comes to lust. Even less so when they only see a fictional character instead of a real human being playing a fictional character. I have no problem with the desire but their are other places to get nudity and even without that I don't know why people can't just use their imagination if they think a character is hot. Trek isn't porn and it's not even gritty drama where nudity might make sense in the context of that show and the kind of stories they tell.
Jason
I really do not want to see a nude Tilly OR Mary Wiseman.
Serious for a moment, I think if we were doing to see nudity in Discovery it would have been Burnham's bath scene.
So I don't expect it, unless they're going to do it purely for the buzz, like Tilly's "fucking cool!"
So I don't expect it, unless they're going to do it purely for the buzz, like Tilly's "fucking cool!"
If they wanted to show nudity I wouldn't mind but I don't know why Mary Wseman would want to do that for a bunch off nerds she doesn't know. Tilly though is someone who I would like to date and get to know. Tilly is both physcially attractive but also has a great personality. Shame she isn't real person.
Jason
Eww..And no more Klingon full frontal either. I get that the producers want to de-sexualize the women on this series, but that was horrific.
Unless they are going to bring in a Jeri Ryan/Jolene Blalock/Terry Farrell -type (very unlikely), I'd prefer no nudity on this series.
Ah, so it is gross unless it is someone attractive?
And, this is why I don't want nudity. It becomes stupid, with only the "perfect people" being selected. Not that I would be surprised by this. Part of Trek history after all.
Stay classy!
Nudity? Yes, but only Kelpian nudity.
I doubt that very much. Not in a country that's even more Puritanistic than it was a couple of decades ago.
You can't show anything nowadays lest you'll be relegated to "adult" channels.
Or Netflix.
Two of those 20 A-Listers are Kim Cattrall and Tom Hardy, both of Star Trek movie fame. XCV330 posted a picture of Denise Crosby and Marina Sirtis from Justice a couple pages ago. Both of those actresses have appeared au naturel if you know where to look.
Countless actresses from Nichelle Nichols to Catherine Hicks to Michelle Forbes to Chase Masterson to Alice Krige to Sarah Silverman to Jolene Blalock to Alice Eve to Jayne Brook and Emily Coutts have appeared in various states of undress in magazines, movies, and TV shows before and after Star Trek.
Discovery should only feature nudity if it's integral to the story. The Good Fight, the other CBS All-Access original, has featured two nude scenes in it's second season, both of which were arguably unnecessary. Perhaps Discovery will follow suit. But CBS AA is not HBO (which notoriously had an issue with pushing female nudity on creators about ten years ago), so I expect any reach for such "titillation" will come from internal discussions amongst the producers and writing staff. And I hope common sense wins out in any discussion.
They want TV-MA Star Trek, which they seem to be able to reach with gratuitous violence and occassional salty language. When that runs out, we can be assured that the self-rating system doesn't force them to use a lower rating if they don't want it.
I think the Orion strip club scene would've been the most natural place for nudity in Season 1 (beyond the flashback sex scene which did feature prosthetic nudity). The fact that they went out of the way to avoid it (would Orion slavegirls in a den of inequity really wear pasties?), makes me think that they don't want to cross that line.
It's not just about "titillation." It's also about sending the message to the audience that this show/movie is going to be gritty and edgy and all that stuff. It's not to different than violence and swear words. It's all about doing something on tv that you use to not be able to do on tv. It is pushing the envelope but I think it sometimes is false edginess. It allows you to be " edgy" without taking dramatic risks in the actual stories. Anyone can do a sex scene or cool action scene or swear but it takes skill to also have a story that says something about the human condition or a social issue, Things were many show even today actually get scared of doing because they know that can really,really piss people off if they have a "unlikeable" character or someone makes a political point where you know half of the country will disagree. Which makes sense because I think many people are afraid of having their idea's challenged and even watch something that makes them feel uncomfortable even though that feeling was the main point of doing it to begin with. The fact that the list keeps growing on what you can and can't do on tv is kind of proof of that so shows instead go for the false "edgy" stuff like nudity,violence and swearing.
Jason
I had to like your post for this comment alone. It is fantastic, and rings very true.
I also largely agree that the Orion strip club was the most natural place for that to happen. But, I am also at the point that I don't think writers can do nudity well, period. As such, probably best avoided.
DISCO has enough controversy as it is
I'm not sure what would be worst. If you had someone walking around naked or giving Burnham child size pajama's like T'Pol use to wear. Is nudity worse than stuff like the decon-chamber or neural pressure points or even catsuits? I mean I could see someone being nude at least being connected to life because we are all nude at some point but who here has ever walked around in a catsuit and high heels, especially at work?
Jason
Jason
Well, it would make sense for Burnham to walk around in a catsuit, since that's established canon as something Vulcans wear.
It's very rare and usually the only place where it feels natural is on HBO. Even Showtime it feels fake because then they look like they are just trying to be HBO. I can think of 3 shows though where you couldn't make them good without nudity and that is "OZ" "Sopranos" and "The Deuce." Maybe "Carnaville" back in the day. I haven't seen "The Young Pope" beyond the pilot but nudity also seems to work when your trying to make something feel sacrilegious.
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