And Senator Kinsey in SG-1. He plays assholes magnificently.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Let's also not forget Andy Bogomil in the Beverly Hills Cop movies. At least he got to play something other than an asshole in those.
He also got to be in a submarine movie with Charlton Heston(Gray Lady Down). And let's not forget what is probably the greatest moment of both his acting and musical careers:
I've been reading this thread:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/comparing-two-1-350-scale-uss-enterprises.293557/#post-12411737
and it brings up a question: How much larger is the shuttle bay and its doors on the Discoprise as compared to the TOS Enterprise?
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/comparing-two-1-350-scale-uss-enterprises.293557/#post-12411737
and it brings up a question: How much larger is the shuttle bay and its doors on the Discoprise as compared to the TOS Enterprise?
Well of course. Uhura could probably do that in her sleep.
Actually there's quite a bit of evidence that the Enterprise in "The Cage" was intended to be somewhat smaller than the version in TOS proper. Larger bridge dome, one row of windows in the saucer, the cutaway by the turbolift and on the engineering console etc all point to a smaller vessel.
Hey, if it can get bigger for Discovery...
And then the next reboot will double it's size again! And the next after that! Until, five reboots from now, it's the size of a planet.
Only slightly larger for the TOS version or needing a major refit on the saucer,etc? Bridge modules are alleged to be swappable.
If that's the case why is there leaked footage of that design in much higher quality? They didn't admit to the teaser being a rush job until after the saw the fan reaction.That's at least what it says in the magazine
Also it's not that surprising - The Comic Con version looks like it was slapped together over a long weekend to have something they can present on stage. They already confirmed that part - how the whole teaser was basically a rush job. Whichever VFX guy did that was probably not completely in the loop of which version the producers greenlight the latest - he probably based the model on the last version he saw that was approved.
What I mean is, they added loads of windows to the saucer (adding a second deck), made the bridge module smaller (making the bridge smaller relative to the ship), making the ship look bigger overall. I've no idea if they'd settled on 947' overall length by the time they filmed "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" but it certainly looks like they decided between them and the series proper that the Enterprise should be bigger.
From "Day of the Dove", but recycled from the turbolift alcove on the bridge, as well as the bridge engineering console. Note single saucer deck and iffy proportions.
Franz Joseph's original 1975 Enterprise blueprints, cheating a little to fit 23 decks into 947' (8-foot decks whereas the sets were taller). Seen on bridge monitors in TOS movies I-III.
Doug Drexler's cutaway, which cheats by scaling the ship up by about a third from 947'. A modified version of this was used in "In a Mirror, Darkly"
Five reboots from now Star Trek will be retooled and re-released as a work of realistic fiction with most of its principal photography taking place IN ORBIT, and then we'll get the retcon that the saucer section is only circular so that it can spin to create artificial gravity.
The sixth reboot will be a historical drama.
I can live with a somewhat scaling up in size of the Original Enterprise ( it's wavered back and forth in size for 50 years, depending on who you talk to) and the bridge view screen also being a window isn't that big a deal.
(we just never saw it being used as one before)
What I'm not crazy about is the TMP pylons and the over-hanging shuttle bay.
Those really throw the "This Is The Prime Universe" being touted by the Producers for a loop.
But, as with everything else in Life, I'll grudgingly adjust.
I hope They show this version taking a real beating in the second season and that will give me a 'head-canon out' for the visual discrepancies.
(we just never saw it being used as one before)
What I'm not crazy about is the TMP pylons and the over-hanging shuttle bay.
Those really throw the "This Is The Prime Universe" being touted by the Producers for a loop.
But, as with everything else in Life, I'll grudgingly adjust.
I hope They show this version taking a real beating in the second season and that will give me a 'head-canon out' for the visual discrepancies.
I cannot think of an easy way to visually compare the Cage versus TOS Enterprise. Is there anyone still living who would know?
That isn’t the exact same design. There are quite a few differences
According the Eaglemoss booklet it was a rush job.
This article on EAS has side views of both versions, but Cage version appears to have interior lighting. This is only correct for the TOS R version of the episode.
What I mean is, they added loads of windows to the saucer (adding a second deck), made the bridge module smaller (making the bridge smaller relative to the ship), making the ship look bigger overall. I've no idea if they'd settled on 947' overall length by the time they filmed "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" but it certainly looks like they decided between them and the series proper that the Enterprise should be bigger.
From "Day of the Dove", but recycled from the turbolift alcove on the bridge, as well as the bridge engineering console. Note single saucer deck and iffy proportions.
Franz Joseph's original 1975 Enterprise blueprints, cheating a little to fit 23 decks into 947' (8-foot decks whereas the sets were taller). Seen on bridge monitors in TOS movies I-III.
Doug Drexler's cutaway, which cheats by scaling the ship up by about a third from 947'. A modified version of this was used in "In a Mirror, Darkly"
Thanks for the link, which I will look at. No way in this thread, do I want to debate whether the CG of TOS, TOS-R, and TOS-D are canon
Franz Joseph's original 1975 Enterprise blueprints, cheating a little to fit 23 decks into 947' (8-foot decks whereas the sets were taller). Seen on bridge monitors in TOS movies I-III.
Doug Drexler's cutaway, which cheats by scaling the ship up by about a third from 947'. A modified version of this was used in "In a Mirror, Darkly"
Yep, thank you. Unlike some people seem to think, stuff won't fit in the official size, it didn't in Franz Joseph's drawings either. He scaled the interiors down about 20 percent. And Drexler had to scale up the ship by third. So 20 to 35 percent size increase from the old size will actually make the sets fit. Increasing it more than that will lead to problems though.
This scale modeling blog goes into considerable detail about all the variations between different depictions of the TOS design, from "The Cage" all the way through "In a Mirror, Darkly."
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