Spoilers Bonus scene from Season One Finale
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Ah, but remember STID? 23rd century or not, we're still in a post-TNG world, apparently, and it's unthinkable there are any psychos left in the human race. "How can you break bones when you can't even break a rule?" and all that. 31 needs people from the savage 20th century, or the savage Mirror Universe, because Federation-raised people are just too nice to even conceive of, say, bombarding an inhabited planet that poses a clear and present danger to surrounding civilizations, or butchering thousands of people up-close with a hand-phaser, or starving an entire civilization to death by distracting them with a neat shape, or poisoning a disputed planet with a toxin that's only harmful to the opponents in the dispute.
I don't know why they bother not writing in the post-TNG era if their going to fall back on the same tired workarounds for TNGs "no internal conflict" rules even when they don't need to. "We can have a captain who's more rough-around-the-edges except, whoops, no we can't, he's an evil imposter." "We'll keep the murderous despot around because she can conceive of primitive ideas like 'violence' and 'terror,' which we require to solve our problems in complete defiance of our premise that there's a better way to live in the future that doesn't involve the mass cruelty and violence of the present day."
Exactly. Using Section 31 as a "black ops division" with government funding, government facilities, and so on, would be like a movie set in the modern day doing the same thing with, I don't know, the Mafia, or Nixon's "plumbers." Ah, yes, the U.S. Government's infamous black-ops illegal-activities division, La Cosa Nostra.
Somebody said before the writers just on a whim made the black badges Section 31, and that it wasn't planned from the start.
Despite the process the show goes through to get approvals on things, the black badge merchandise being revealed last summer, the scene in Episode 3 (which was shot last spring) with the black badge shown on screen, and the scene in the opening post filmed last November.
I'll give it a wait and see, but probably would've been better not to have S31 show up. If it's a vehicle to keep Georgiou in the mix, and prime Lorca enters the picture, then I'm happy to see where it goes.
Yes, and because Section 31 is part of their movies, they will have been informed. Do you not think the two companies about to start merging together are talking to each other about Star Trek on a regular basis, especially given that CBS manages licensing and merchandising for the movies on behalf of Viacom, a company you didn't even know existed?
If there's about to be a new actor playing Spock on television, do you not think CBS has to tell Viacom?
I have yet to see anyone make that argument, outside of the visual changes. The story components are 95% pure fanwank.
Used to be, the shows would open up new elements of the universe, the novels/comics (if one was so interested), came around and filled in the blanks. Now, all Star Trek is on TV is "fill-in-the-blanks".
Section 31 is owned by CBS they don't need to tell them squat.
Nope because they own the character.
You don't watch the show, from your own admission. Honestly, you are a bandwidth waster that adds nothing to this section of the forum. You're a troll, and everyone sees it.
I've seen twelve of the fifteen episodes, and have stated such on numerous occasions. Care to try again?
Stop replying because your comments are getting dumber and dumber.
CBS has to merchandise the new movie coming out, so yes, they are telling Viacom what they're planning, because you know, if there are two Spock action figures out at Walmart, they will dent each other's sales.
Don't talk about things you don't understand.
Thank you.
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Glory be they actually went there.
I am fine with it, I liked the Section 31 we got in DS9.
I consider a secretive shadowy organisation tasked with doing all the dirty jobs to be a realistic response to all the other races that we have seen and their secret agencies like the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order.
Even the Vulcans had one as we saw in Enterprise.
I am just surprised we didn't see them during the actual war.
I will laugh if we finally see the prime Lorca and he is a member after all.
I am fine with it, I liked the Section 31 we got in DS9.
I consider a secretive shadowy organisation tasked with doing all the dirty jobs to be a realistic response to all the other races that we have seen and their secret agencies like the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order.
Even the Vulcans had one as we saw in Enterprise.
I am just surprised we didn't see them during the actual war.
I will laugh if we finally see the prime Lorca and he is a member after all.
You've seen all of the episodes, don't even try to bullshit me.
I don't think that's how merchandising licensing works.
CBS owns Star Trek. Go look at newer novels and discs. All the Trademarks are owned by CBS.
Nope. Care to try again? First I haven't seen it, then I've seen it all... what's next? I've secretly seen season two?
It happened with the JJ movies.
They still sold TOS merch while those were in theatres.
PM me with spoilers.Nope. Care to try again? First I haven't seen it, then I've seen it all... what's next? I've secretly seen season two?
Yes, and Viacom is their absolute biggest partner for the franchise, to the extent this TV series has the same executive producer.
They are talking to each other, and for anyone to reply "CBS doesn't tell Viacom anything" is absolutely ridiculous. You may as well be a flat earther, that's how stupid that comment is to me.
By that same token, do you not think CBS is keeping tabs on everything Viacom does, including this new Tarantino movie? Of course they are. CBS gets hurt if we get Klingon SLJ calling everyone "mofo" this and "mofo" that, so they're probably looped into every executive email chain.
