Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?
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If all the above is correct, then Discovery is no more a violation of “prime” than anything post First Contact (the movie). Therefore, all the handwringing over “prime” is moot.
Well, technically, "prime" was a term only coined c. 2009, to distinguish the then-primary Trek timeline from the alternate reality of the new Abrams films. Presumably, then, if there's any ambiguity, "prime" should designate Trek's status quo reality as of post-ENT, pre-Abrams. Whether or not DSC fits in with that is not, admittedly, necessarily the same question as whether it fits in with TOS and TNG as we remember them.
The silly thing that annoys me most is things like micheal using a communication as a universal translator when , "10 years later" its a completely different piece of eguipment. I spptted a few things, but maybe im being picky
Get out of here with that heresy!If all the above is correct, then Discovery is no more a violation of “prime” than anything post First Contact (the movie). Therefore, all the handwringing over “prime” is moot.
2373. Not 2273.
FC takes place in 2373. TMP takes place in 2273.
FC takes place in 2373. TMP takes place in 2273.
It's also a different piece of equipment in the 24th century, at least with some alien races. Many Ferengi have Universal Translators implanted in their ears that are sometimes prone to malfunctioning, as Quark, Rom and Nog momentarily believe in "Little Green Men(DS9)."
Whoops. You are, of course, correct. Too darn easy a mistake to make without noticing.2373. Not 2273.
FC takes place in 2373. TMP takes place in 2273.
(And hey, I'd also never noticed before that those two movies turn out to be set exactly a century apart!...)
I hate being that guy who corrects dates, but, well, I usually am that guy. 
For whatever it's worth, the change that the communicator is the translator is one of several carried over from Enterprise.
Well, it certainly highlights that as far as timelines go, Trek has been all over the map since at least City on the Edge of Forever. Minor changes, major changes (see Endgame or The Visitor), 'corrections' that weren't quite the same but got the job done, all sorts of things creating a maze of divergent timelines. The fact that so few have a noticeable effect after the fact is something of an argument for fate...If all the above is correct, then Discovery is no more a violation of “prime” than anything post First Contact (the movie). Therefore, all the handwringing over “prime” is moot.
By this point in history Linguacode software is in use by Starfleet and can be incorporated into both shipboard communications systems and handheld devices. Hoshi invented Linguacode later in her life and the program has probably been used aboard starships for many years by the time DSC rolls around, and for all we know the handheld Universal Translator seen in "Metamorphosis(TOS)" could well have used Linguacode to interpret the Companion's thought transmissions.
The UT was an attachment for the communicator, at least in early episodes
In Archer's time, it was a separate device.
it attached to the Communicator (well the communicator attached to it)
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/1/1e/Starfleet_universal_translator,_2150s.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111213011912&path-prefix=en
But they dropped it from the show pretty quickly IIRC
But if this thread taught me anything it's that whatever Enterprise changed/retconned (like cloaking tech already existing for Suliban / Xyrillian / Romulan / etc) doesn't actually count... unless it's about Klingon forehead viruses, that's the only one that really matters!
So Lorca was more correct than he knew?
My own view of Trek time travel is that just about every time “our heroes fix things”, they really end up in a new branch (à la 09) but very similar to the original. As we follow the characters, and they don’t seem to notice, neither do we. In 09, the perspective shifted enough so that we did notice.
The advantage of my interpretation of Trek time travel is how it eliminates 99% of “canon (really continuity) violations”. Does wonders for my blood pressure.
Star Trek is really about Klingons.
I have to admit i wasnt a big fan of ds9 or voyager. Wasnt a fan of berman. But at least the uniforms were close enough to be consistant.. i cant help but think we will see pike in a blue discovery uniform in the season opener of discovery..
Her's was an upgrade.
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