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Kai "the spy" said:
Yeah. Way better to make them aliens.
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Closer to the source material than making them Delusional LARPers would've been.

The first bit of the emboldened part is debatable, but ... what does it tell us?
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That people who enjoy "grounded" CBMs just can't stand non-grounded ones.

crookeddy said:
Anwar seems to think that the secret to making a movie comic booky is
making it terrible, incoherent, and not bound to any rules whatsoever.
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So you see every single non-grounded CBM as terrible and incoherent. Thanks for owning up.

Spider-man is getting beat down by green goblin but..... a magician appears to save him! Yay, drama.
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If it's a Dr Strange crossover, then yeah that isn't a problem. I wouldn't mind seeing Batman have a magical adventure with Zatanna either.
 
Anwar said:
Closer to the source material than making them Delusional LARPers would've been.



That people who enjoy "grounded" CBMs just can't stand non-grounded ones.



So you see every single non-grounded CBM as terrible and incoherent. Thanks for owning up.



If it's a Dr Strange crossover, then yeah that isn't a problem. I wouldn't mind seeing Batman have a magical adventure with Zatanna either.
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Delete your account.
 
Anwar said:
http://www.slashfilm.com/interstellar-script-differences/
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That article states that Spielberg had a hand in developing the treatment for Interstellar, which is directly contradictory to the Wikipedia article on the film, which states that Spielberg took an interest in directing the project only after having an 8-page treatment from the minds behind Contact presented to him.

Personally, I'll take the word of the sourced article on Wikipedia over that of an Internet entertainment blog writer.

People who loved SM1 and SM2 for having "grounded, human" villains hated the idea of a Sand Monster and an Alien slime Monster as the villains for SM3. Because neither were "grounded".
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Again you go spouting off bullshit.
 
DigificWriter said:
That article states that Spielberg had a hand in developing the treatment for Interstellar, which is directly contradictory to the Wikipedia article on the film, which states that Spielberg took an interest in directing the project only after having an 8-page treatment from the minds behind Contact presented to him.

Personally, I'll take the word of the sourced article on Wikipedia over that of an Internet entertainment blog writer.
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Wikipedia can be edited by anyone.

Again you go spouting off bullshit.
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I can promise you, if Sandman had been the villain the first film (and they'd made him the guy who killed Ben right from the start) there wouldn't have BEEN any sequels because the audience wouldn't have tolerated such a non-grounded villain. He'd have been derided from start to finish as too unbelievable.

Same with Venom, the audiences who bought into the Goblin and Ock were never going to buy into an Alien Parasite Monster no matter HOW it was introduced into the story. It's too fundamentally incompatible with how Raimi set up his world.
 
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Anwar said:
People who loved SM1 and SM2 for having "grounded, human" villains hated the idea of a Sand Monster and an Alien slime Monster as the villains for SM3. Because neither were "grounded".
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Wait, a super-strong guy with a split personality riding on a flying surfboard and another guy with sentient robotic tentacles are grounded?!
 
Anwar said:
Wikipedia can be edited by anyone.
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Not without fact-checked sourcing, though, and the sources listed for the article also contradict that Slashfilm article's assertions.

I can promise you, if Sandman had been the villain the first film (and they'd made him the guy who killed Ben right from the start) there wouldn't have BEEN any sequels because the audience wouldn't have tolerated such a non-grounded villain. He'd have been derided from start to finish as too unbelievable.

Same with Venom, the audiences who bought into the Goblin and Ock were never going to buy into an Alien Parasite Monster no matter HOW it was introduced into the story. It's too fundamentally incompatible with how Raimi set up his world.
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Again with the BS.

Spider-Man 3's introduction of Venom wasn't disliked because the character wasn't "grounded" (which doesn't even apply to Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus despite your weird assertions to the contrary); he was disliked because Raimi was forced to shoehorn him into a movie that didn't need him, which resulted in a disjointedness and a feeling of the film being overstuffed. The perception of Topher Grace as being the wrong person to play the character also contributed to "comic book nerds" disliking his inclusion.

As far as Sandman goes, though, I have rarely seen anyone complain about him, soall your assertions have done is demonstrated how little you actually know about what has caused comic book fans to have a less-than-stellar opinion of Spider-Man 3.
 
DigificWriter said:
Not without fact-checked sourcing, though, and the sources listed for the article also contradict that Slashfilm article's assertions.
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I'm sure there are other sources that also say Spielberg was involved from the start.

Again with the BS.

Spider-Man 3's introduction of Venom wasn't disliked because the character wasn't "grounded" (which doesn't even apply to Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus despite your weird assertions to the contrary); he was disliked because Raimi was forced to shoehorn him into a movie that didn't need him, which resulted in a disjointedness and a feeling of the film being overstuffed.
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It didn't matter which SM movie he was in, Venom was never going to "fit" into Raimi's world due to fundamental incompatibility. Space Aliens just don't "fit" the setting Raimi made. Even If he'd wanted to include Venom he wouldn't have made him a space alien at all, he'd just have had Brock get bit by another Spider and gain Peter's powers that way. All the space alien stuff would've been cut out.

As far as Sandman goes, though, I have rarely seen anyone complain about him,
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I have, quite alot actually. Everything from his origin to his powers to his role in the plot...pretty much everything.

DigificWriter said:
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They're just slightly augmented Humans, not a radically transformed Human like Sandman or a Human/Alien Hybrid like Venom.
 
*sees two new pages, opens thread*

*reads first post*

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The internet is saying that apparently Patty Jenkins confirmed that the sequel will be set in the '80s.
 
[Thread drift]
I had the strangest experience this morning. I have a set of Sunday New York Times crosswords from 2002 that I'm burning through, and the latest has the following clue as part of its theme of dropping one of a doubled letter: Married to an Amazon?

The solution: Had a lot of Gal(l).

All I could do was laugh.[/Thread drift]
 
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