I was referring to Star Trek in general.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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I really like the Malachowski-class
Reminds me of one of the possible ship configurations you could make with the South Bend USS Enterprise toy.
Yeah, like that.Reminds me of one of the possible ship configurations you could make with the South Bend USS Enterprise toy.
Oh gods, yes. Although Fans love kitbashing, but trek has done some awful, awful things with kitbashing. Recall the Yeager from DS9? Made by gluing the voyager prime hull on a raider hull? Not even remotely the same scale models and they did not even try to hide the raiders front. Gods that was bad
It also was never seen up close or intended to be, as with nearly all of the kitbashed ships.
I had that toy
Even at long range you can't hide it. They plugged at hull from a 300+ meter ship on to the hull of a 60 meter one and it is clear and jarring.
Exactly.
Me too, don't think we will though. But if they redesigned them like the Enterprise then maybe they'll squeeze through as a new phase of Starships. But i'm wondering, would these ships be considered part of an older fleet like the Enterprise? Or is the Discovery fleet of starships older?I would love to see ships like this in Discovery.
The discovery herself is new, the Enterprise is about 12 years old so no an "old" ship. Of the ones we saw, we have been told the Walker class is old, likely late 22nd century . But the ships we have seen seem to be older than the Discovery and likely older than the Connie
And we won't be seeing any Daedalus-class starships because those were all mothballed from service by 2196. I wouldn't mind seeing one in the Fleet Museum, though. It would give the producers a chance to use and modify the NX-style Daedalus variant that popped up online a number of years back and combines design features of both the Daedalus-class starship model seen in Sisko's office on DS9 and the NX-01. It looks kinda cool and I'd enjoy seeing something like that in an historical display on the new show.
The ship is not even canon. we see one model, which never got explained and could have been a Civilian freighter for all we are told. Now days it looks older than the NX with its shape, but we have zero canon explnation on what that class is.
Mike Okuda would probably disagree with you a little on the canon status, but we'll agree it never appeared as a "live" ship onscreen.
And I think if she ever did with that spherical primary hull and cylindrical nacelles-and-stardrive section configuration we'd all survive and not be permanently scarred by having seen a ship that doesn't look modern enough for the hip kids.
And I think if she ever did with that spherical primary hull and cylindrical nacelles-and-stardrive section configuration we'd all survive and not be permanently scarred by having seen a ship that doesn't look modern enough for the hip kids.
Its nothing like that, it just does not fit post NX, as its whole role was supposed to be pre saucer shape. That was always the non-canon stuff, ENT kinda screwed with years of non-canon ship line ups and placed the Saucer pre federation ( which we could blame on the Crew of the E).
Eh, I don't buy the "ENT-is-a-different-timeline" theory and it's never held water despite the best arguments the proponents have made in its favor.
I did not say different. In trek, changes to the past change everything. FC changed the past, they showed two folks who would shape the Federation what ships looked like, the shape. That does not make a new reality, but changes made and not changed back stay. So you now have saucer shaped ships pre federation. And ol Zep himself was Involved with the NX project.
The saucer shaped vessels were always a part of the pre-Federation period. Books prior to 2001 and ENT aren't canon no matter how cool they are, and we never had any canonical dialogue or graphics in any episode or film confirming that no saucer-shaped primary hulls existed before the Daedalus-class went into service. Even Doug Drexler seems fine with the NX-class predating the Daedalus even if his personal and stated preference is that the latter came first in the Starfleet lineage.
There’s the...Olympic class? In all good things, and the Discovery has both a sphere hull and a saucer hull up front, nested.
So answer my earlier question, rephrased here: how could they make, say, the NX-01 appear more primitive than the TOS Enterprise, in your opinion?
Do you have a link to it?
It's pretty nice, but it's a bit of a kitbash, inverted Shenzhou. If you look at the bottom of its saucer, it's very close to the top of the Walker class' saucer, and it looks a bit off because of it.
Still, it's no skin off your butt if they show a Daedalus class ship somewhere and explain what class it is and a little of it's history.
Bam! Canon.
The question is, do these showrunners even know about the Daedalus class?
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