Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

[fireproof78]

Join the club. We've been called idiots for not following CBS' decrees.

We're all idiots here

 

[Tim Thomason]

And yet, when they do their inevitable time travel story involving the 24th century, suddenly 24th century Starfleet is using a new form of rank insignia! And still the Peanut Gallery claims it's Prime because as you know, looks aren't canon.

They might pull a Trials and Tribble-ations and CGI the Discovery cast around early TNG (WNOHGB or something).

Tilly spotting Worf: "That's a Klingon?! What's with all the hair?"
Ash: "We don't discuss it with outsiders."

Michael (raising her eyebrow): "These outfits certainly are revealing..."
(cut to: Saru in a skant)

 

[cultcross]

What I found especially sloppy about the MU episodes was at the ending of The Wolf Inside the Emperor's ship is clearly in the same system as Shenzhou, Michael and the bridge crew watch it blow up the Resistance's base. But then at the start of Vaulting Ambition, Michael takes a shuttle from Shenzhou, and has to travel at warp to get to the Emperor's ship.

Far from being sloppy, it is the first time to my knowledge that a warp 1 trip is seen to take exactly the time it would take to get the distance they state they're going at c. I thought that was a neat touch, as we are so keen on details. We don't see the emperor's ship in the preceding episode so we don't know whether it fired long range weapons, or a support vessel fired the actual shots.

Even then, Discovery seems to treat Kahless as some sort of supernatural deity whom the Klingons actually pray to and L'Rell even said "Kahless willing" in reference to her plan succeeding.

Kahless wasn't really supernatural, he was an ordinary person who won over the Klingon people through leadership, victory and an honour code. Okay, some mystical elements exist in his story, like the creation of the first bat'leth, and there is the whole second coming aspect of his legend, but he is not the Klingon god as Discovery is treating him as. Klingon mythology stated Klingons had no use for gods and slaughtered the ones they were supposed to worship.

And it isn't possible that certain fringe cults deified him? T'Kuvma is portrayed as an out-there zealot. Faith is never as simple as saying 'everyone believes this'; in the same way that some Christians believe Jesus was just a man, some Klingons may well believe Kahless was more than one. After all, there is a monastery waiting for his return where people meditate and have visions of Kahless. Doesn't sound too far from a figure of worship to me - I could quite easily believe Klingon sects exist who worship him as divine.

 

[BillJ]

Whatever Discovery is, I just hope it is more original in its second season. Not sure I can handle another season of "look, see we're Star Trek!!!"

 

[Nerys Myk]

Whatever Discovery is, I just hope it is more original in its second season. Not sure I can handle another season of "look, see we're Star Trek!!!"

Wait, I thought the problem was its not Star Trek?

 

[fireproof78]

Wait, I thought the problem was its not Star Trek?

New test available from Trek Yards:

The biggest problem with Discovery is:
A: Not enough Star Trek references
B: Too many Star Trekreferences
C: All of the above.

 

[Ovation]

C, of course.

 

[cooleddie74]

Whatever Discovery is, I just hope it is more original in its second season. Not sure I can handle another season of "look, see we're Star Trek!!!"

You wouldn't know it's Star Trek at times if you looked at the crappy Klingon ships and makeup.

But yeah, I have no doubts whatsoever it's Star Trek. It's just Star Trek in need of some better stories and more ties to visual continuity.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Hopefully the tri colored uniforms make a return in season two.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Hopefully the tri colored uniforms make a return in season two.

Gold, Silver and Copper aren't colors?

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Gold, Silver and Copper aren't colors?

Didn't do it for me. Especially the over textured delta pattern on the sides. Gold, Blue and Red or Peach whatever for the third color is what I want in the uniforms.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Didn't do it for me. Especially the over textured delta pattern on the sides. Gold, Blue and Red or Peach whatever for the third color is what I want in the uniforms.

They could lose the deltas and I wouldn't mind.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

They could lose the deltas and I wouldn't mind.

The cut of the uniforms is fine, I'd just like to see them with a TOS color scheme.

 

[cooleddie74]

Gold, Bluish Silver and Copper. Maybe it's just my eyes and my TV and computer screens but the silver on the science and medical uniforms has a bluish tinge to it that makes it more closely resemble the colors used in other eras of Starfleet history.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The cut of the uniforms is fine, I'd just like to see them with a TOS color scheme.

Have you no respect for the canon!!!!!!!! Pilot colors only!!!!!!

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Have you no respect for the canon!!!!!!!! Pilot colors only!!!!!!

That kinda got thrown out the window with the TOS bussards on the Enterprise nacelles.

 

[cooleddie74]

The two pilots didn't even have redshirts, yet the Enterprise still loses people inside the Galactic Barrier and later to Gary Mitchell's powers on Delta Vega.

CANON VIOLATION!!!

 

[Nerys Myk]

That kinda got thrown out the window with the TOS bussards on the Enterprise nacelles.

The antennae are retractable!!!!!

 

[cooleddie74]

They're spikes, not antennae.

Nerd.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Gold, Bluish Silver and Copper. Maybe it's just my eyes and my TV and computer screens but the silver on the science and medical uniforms has a bluish tinge to it that makes it more closely resemble the colors used in other eras of Starfleet history.

Everything seems to have a bluish tinge. Inside, outside, you name it, it's bluish.